THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD
The Most Powerful Man in the World?
The "Black" Pope
Count Hans Kolvenbach -- The Jesuit's General
4/15/00 RICK MARTIN
The SPECTRUM Newspaper, May 2000
So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on
the "conspiracy" playing field? You've maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped
into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the
scenes.
You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who
invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the
biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling
the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral
Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite"
families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in
Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World
Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master
deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.
While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are
about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don't
mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public
view, and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars
probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented
here.
To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as mild an
understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes
the entire slant of the entire playing field!
After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with
Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no
other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to
just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us
almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another
forty.
We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work
by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share this material with at
least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly
after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help
you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and broad-
sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.
Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding New World Order
agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has
been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet
remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to
possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true,
otherworldly cultural heritage.
When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the
purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments in high school history
class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated
intrigue.
In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off
the floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just
say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’
ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the
pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general
attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing business.
Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically
important material here in The SPECTRUM.
We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions. And there is probably no
more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous notions-shattering example of that than
what is being presented here. The interview is directly followed by a number of
pertinent excerpts from Eric’s eye-opening book—which will be available July 1.
[Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the information presented below is the
studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at The SPECTRUM find much about his
presentation of his historical research which meshes with and expands upon Truth
which has been presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And
that is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh.
However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which typically has cultivated
a more aware spiritual perspective than the general public—we do not want to give the
impression that we agree with (or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric’s
presentation having to do with his personal "religious" convictions. The focus of those
convictions follows a much more biblically conventional (literal) path—in stark contrast
to the unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical material.
Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own—for you to sort and
interpret as you see fit—rather than being singled-out to be addressed editorially.
However, in this case, the practical side of Eric’s stated religious convictions include the
condoning of some degree of violence (or violent protest) and use of armaments. And
such convictions are very much the opposite of our philosophical position—for many
reasons, not the least of which is the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which
would result from choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency responses to
schoolroom Earth’s current challenges.
Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines" thoughtfully, there is
glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual message in Eric’s commentary—of "Have
the courage to speak The Truth" and "God helps those who help themselves"—which
we certainly DO agree with wholeheartedly and have long supported enthusiastically.
We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet. The Light of Truth,
intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging many to step forward and share
what they know. Will such ones follow that nudge or continue to hide in fear? The
answer to that question is perhaps the most important aspect of schoolroom Earth’s
relentless testing at this critical time.
One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts & Entertainment
(A&E) cable television channel just started to air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new
two-hour documentary called: The Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can study it
carefully; within the lines of dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries
are many, many clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of
course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having read and
digested the following.]
Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your book is so
comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global control by the Jesuits, dating
back to 1540. I would like to begin our conversation with a very important point of
clarification so that our readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical
narrative we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most
compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have ever read. I
want to tell you, I am impressed!
You, literally, link every major global conflict and political assassination to the hands of
the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many other groups you mention, have been the
unwitting pawns in this Jesuit Agenda.
Today, the present. I’m going to start here, and then we’re going to go way back in time
and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it will give a foundation for
going back in time.
Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black
here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the
actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?
Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came
to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is
Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof.
Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person,
Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he
hail from?
Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.
Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?
Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of
Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit
headquarters.
Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?
Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s
headquarters of the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?
Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.
Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the
Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?
Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers.
They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not
believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.
Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the
time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite
a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re
involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their
black capes and so on.
Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the world knows
who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.
Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top Jesuits—just a
second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography,
by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in
1995.
Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page
of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach.
He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black
man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff.
One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White
men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.
Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General?
Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for life—unless he becomes a
"heretic".
Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?
Phelps: I would say that they’re the "professed", the high 4th Degree. When a Jesuit is
professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my
book.
Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our paper?
Phelps: Of course, absolutely.
Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and it’s similarity to the Protocols
Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and I wrote that question before I got back to the
Protocols portion of your book.
Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols because they have carried out every
protocol in that little handbook. They have carried everything out. And, Alberto Rivera
says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate,
Protestants, and Baptists in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick.
Jack Chick published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V, & VI.
Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who published the
Protocols. Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because they, and
they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to pass.
They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The
owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is
a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights
of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while
they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that
they would create "amusements".
Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason—Disneyworld,
Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with Hersey Park. They create all of these
amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’
re busy overthrowing the Protestant form of government.
Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the high
Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the
Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the
Mafia Commission resides in New York.
Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal
friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And that has not changed.
So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos,
the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s
only Jews who are front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia
and for the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was
Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and he
would never say a word about it.
Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there’s anything that you don’t want me to print,
please let me know because, literally, I’m going to print everything we say in this
conversation.
Phelps: That’s fine, that’s fine with me because it needs to be said.
Martin: Let’s get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine the spotlight on this
guy for just a little bit here. Let’s talk about him. What does he do? Who is he? Let’s talk
about his position as "General". How do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does
the Pope know he’s a pawn?
Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you want me to deal with?
Martin: Let’s just shine the light right on the Count.
Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok.
Martin: Let’s start there, and you tell me everything you want to tell me about that
position.
Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total dictator and autocrat of
the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move. The provincials are his major
subordinates. There are around 83 provincials right now.
As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83 regions. Ok? For each
region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10 provincials in the United States. There
is one for Central America. There is one for Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into
these provinces.
So it’s old Babylonian provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit
General himself; so it’s strictly a Roman form of government where all the states or
provinces are subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He meets with
his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation, he gets the information
from the provincial of that country, how best to go about this, the demeanor of the
people, and then he uses legitimate grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil
Rights Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end result
was more consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was
written by [the longtime President of the University of Notre Dame, the Reverend]
Theodore Hesburgh.
The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the provincials then, of
course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many Jesuits who are not "professed", so
many of the lower Jesuits have no idea what’s going on at the top. They have no
concept of the power of their Order.
It’s just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the High Shriner
Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think that they’re just doing works
and being good people. But the bottom line is that the high-level Freemasons are
subject, also, to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great,
wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when
Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by the Pope in 1773.
So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful Freemason
they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their suppression. That is an irrefutable
conclusion. And then, when you see the Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and
the Napoleonic Wars carried out by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the
Jacobins, whatever they did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order.
It’s to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte Cristo. The Count
is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ. The Count of the Mount of Christ.
Alexander Dumas was talking about the Jesuit General getting vengeance when the
Jesuits were suppressed, and many of them were consigned to an island, three hours
sailing, West, off the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their
power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who had suppressed them, drove
them from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from Malta, using Napoleon.
And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian patriots in 1848, to free Rome from the
temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and one of the books was to expose
this, and that was The Count Of Monte Cristo.
So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it’s really a satire on the Jesuit Order
regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte Cristo has an intelligence
apparatus that can’t be beat. Well, that’s the Jesuit Order.
But the Count doesn’t get what he really ought to have, or his last wish, and that’s the
love of woman. He gains back all of his political power; he gains back everything he
lost; but he doesn’t have the love of a woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They
have no women. They have no love of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a
woman, means you have an allegiance to your wife and family, and you cannot obey
the General. That’s why they will NEVER be married, and that’s one of the great KEYS
to their success.
They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish Catholics getting
on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us in Vietnam and walk away. They can
betray us every time we go to the hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and
walk away, because it’s "for the greater glory of God"—Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the
greater glory of the god who sits in Rome.
Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?
Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from
Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.
Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important?
Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first
started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and
set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed,
came back, went to school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea
to just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola.
Martin: Yes.
Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was wounded at a battle
between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was shattered. Well, the French
General, because Loyola was very brave in conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend
Loyola. So they set the leg and sent him back to his home—which, of course, he was
royalty to the Counsel of Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques.
Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg—it had healed improperly, so he
made a rack where he would stretch the leg, with severe, horrible, awful pain—and
trying to stretch this leg to get it back to normal shape, he endured awful, terrible pain.
He had it rebroken, again, a couple of times and it still did not heal properly, so he had
a perpetual limp. He could no longer be the courtier among women, and as a result, he
went into this depression, and he then had this vision of the saints, etc., etc., and he
wrote his spiritual exercises.
I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I’ll take up from there. Loyola
then wanted to form an army, but when this happened with his spiritual exercises, those
spiritual exercises would be basic training for all of his Jesuits. That’s what they will ALL
go through. That’s what every Jesuit goes through today.
One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior says "black is white
and white is black", then that’s the way it is. That is in his spiritual exercises. That is
what is quoted in JFK, when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we’ve
got to start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." That was a Jesuit
giveaway that the Jesuits produced that movie, because they’re quoting Ignatius Loyola
in that movie from his spiritual exercises.
So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set his mind to regain
back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And so, he went to the Pope, and
the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But this man is a soldier, he’s a lawyer,
and he put together a legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had lost,
as well as institute a World Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in 1540.
He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and he was released,
and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet of the Pope. He would be
completely at his service. The Pope chartered him, and that Pope was Pius III. The
Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit Order; now he has Papal protection, and they
began their awful history of deeds of blood. And war after war after war after war, they’
re all attributed to the Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic nobles, with lots of money,
donated castles and schools and money to the Jesuit Order.
Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by them. Of course, they
stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World War II. They stole all their gold, all their
assets and everything, whenever they went into a country. What’s just been released is
NOTHING compared to what they’ve taken.
In Edmond Paris’s book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The Vatican Against
Europe, it gets into great detail of what they did. It calls it—the last 30 years of war is all
attributable to the Jesuits, their massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond
Paris did not understand that the Jesuit General—and this is one of the most important
points I want to make about Von Kolvenbach—the Jesuit General is in complete control
of the international intelligence community: that’s the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the Israeli
Mossad, the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is in COMPLETE
CONTROL of the entire intelligence apparatus—FBI, every bureaucratic agency in this
country, all of it; he is in complete control of it.
So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual, they put in the Social
Security number, and everything from all of the intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he
and his provincials can review everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it,
everything that’s attached to Rome’s social security number, which FDR put upon us in
1933 with the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop, or maybe it
was Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in office.
The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity, the income tax, and
recognizing Joseph Stalin’s bloody Jesuit USSR government. So, with the giving of us
the Social Security number, that is Rome’s number—that’s why I refuse to use it—and
that’s why they want everybody using it for everything: driver’s license, tax return, credit
card, everything you do, that number is you and that number is Rome’s number.
Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to mind is Louis Freeh, head
of the FBI.
Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of Columbus; I can’t prove
it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to be a Knight of Columbus.
And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh was the one
behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity. And his top sniper
was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon Horiuchi.
So, it’s Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI, who carried out all of
this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh and Lon Horiuchi are personally
accountable to Cardinal O’Connor of New York. And Cardinal O’Connor of New York is
the most powerful Cardinal in the country. He is the military vicar. And that’s why Bush
kissed his fanny for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O’Connor is the King of the
American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace, St. Patrick’s Cathedral,
"the little Vatican".
Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Of course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the Jesuits are like the SS of
the Catholic Church. They maintain order.
And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of Fordham University.
Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University, I believe he is an Irishman, is also
a member of the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the
Annual Report of the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and
rule over the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham
include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the book on the
Second Vatican Council.
Martin: Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the Council of Trent?
Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the Protestant Reformation.
Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all of the political liberty that we
know of today. There’s no such thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation.
There’s no such thing as private rights without the Reformation. There’s no such thing
as the Law of Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without
the Reformation.
So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace through faith
alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to Heaven—that all we need
is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the
Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were
no longer wanted because the people were getting the word of God in a Bible,
specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with these great revivals
breaking forth and the Reformation happening, nations were breaking away from the
power of the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor,
resigned and became a monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in
breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne and the Pope.
Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of money. The nations
were not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we call "foreign aid" in this
country. And so the Pope was very upset about his.
What’s he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us; they’re not under our
temporal or spiritual power; and it’s very important to remember that the Pope claims
two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with the breaking of his spiritual power, he
then lost his temporal power. In other words, he no longer had the ability to rule the
people through the king of the country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry
VIII.
So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of England;
he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in England, in Germany, in
Holland, and other places.
As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his demonisms, his "spiritual
exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member of the Spanish Alumbrados,
which is what we call the Illuminati today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to
regain back what had been taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through
Luther, Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those
men died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died peacefully, amidst the
power of the Jesuit machinations.
The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse and
condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who does not
believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy communion bread], and that his
literal blood is in the wine. That’s called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not
believe that is an accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is
outside the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in
justification by grace through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who believes that
the Pope is not the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines
were being put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which produced the Reformation,
and so the Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were preaching. This is all in
Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the Jesuits condemn
freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of conscience. So, no man has
the right to choose his own religion; no man has the right to publish what he feels is the
truth; and no man has the right to freedom of conscience.
Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the First Amendment.
The man who wrote the First Amendment was James Madison, who was a
Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland:
"If you don’t secure all those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia was
a Baptist/Calvinist state.
So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of the
Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his Institutes Of The Christian
Religion. Calvin [1536] wrote the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it
when he was 27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so
hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the day of his
death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It’s Calvin and his Institutes Of The
Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two
major documents.
Martin: Council of Trent was what year?
Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in Italy. So, it was a
Council that took place in the town of Trent, Italy.
The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was finished in 1648, after the
30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin’s Institutes, and is what the Church of
Scotland and the Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of Rome and
England. That document is a major document, and it’s not the new Westminster
Confession, it’s the old one of 1648, where they called the Pope the man of sin, that
Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced anti-Christian tyranny.
And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the spirit", which is the Word
of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter 6, and "the sword of just defense"—the
gun, the sword.
So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time for war, and we do
not refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s necessary. It was the Calvinists who gave us
our political liberty in England with Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent
Baptist. It was Calvinists in Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with
William of Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great
country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that Masonic
Lodge that last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a Baptist and a
Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of New York by one of his
captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists.
That’s why they didn’t surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why, when they were naked,
when they went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that because they were Bible-
believing Calvinists and they refused to submit to the tyranny of King George, who was
controlled by the Jesuits.
And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve lost everything. And those
very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment, secured their right to bear arms,
because they secured the right, the "sword of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit"
is contained in the First Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from them.
The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second Amendments.
Without those first two Amendments, all the others are nothing.
Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3 of the seventy. (laughter)
How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into law of the
Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called "Dirty Harry"—when they
heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they thought it was a movie about Harry Truman,
according to my Japanese pastor friend, Daniel Fuji, who has passed away.
Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast Democratic machine in
Missouri. Harry Truman takes over after FDR’s murder, because he was murdered in
the home of Bernard Baruch. When he did that, he then finished up the war with the
hoax called the dropping of the nuclear bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax
called the Cold War, that would enable the Vatican to knock over country after country
after country, and replace the leaders with dictators, subordinate to the Pope. That was
the purpose of the Cold War.
And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War Powers Act,
the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb shelters, etc. So the nation
was in kind of a frenzy.
When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under military or martial law, and
that’s when the flags in every courtroom, state and federal, began to be changed. And
every state flag and every U.S. flag is now trimmed in gold fringe. And whenever you
see a flag trimmed in gold fringe, that means that it is the flag of the Commander-in-
Chief. Now, if it’s the state flag, it means that’s the flag of the governor, as Commander-
in-Chief. And if it’s the federal flag, or the national flag, more correctly, it’s the flag of the
Commander-in-Chief in Washington.
So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military rule. They all proceed with
summary procedures. The jury has no power of jury nullification. And they are simply
enforcing the laws of the Empire, which I call 14th Amendment America, which is a
military-style, King of England-style country. The courts are nothing more than courts of
the king’s bench, as you can see in Blackstone’s Commentaries.
And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a flag trimmed in gold fringe.
The bank is what England would call, in Blackstone’s day, the king’s bank. So, we have
the king’s bank, and we have the king’s bench. And it’s run according to military rule,
according to Berkheimer’s great work Military Rule And Martial Law, published in 1914.
When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great plan to put us under
the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war rule. "Daylight savings time" is
what was called "war time". This country only went to daylight savings time during
World War II, and they called it, at that time, war time. So, nothing’s changed. We’ve
never gone back to not turning back our clocks. We’re still on war time. The income tax
is a war tax. It was called a victory tax in 1942.
So, people are paying a war tax, they’re under war time, they’re under an emergency
war powers act, and the courts are war courts.
Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which could take this
entire interview, you say that the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General,
executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal
Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of
Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from
Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the assassination
to be an accurate representation of the facts?
Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly outlined [in his
book], and proven through two centuries of showing how it’s all been put together. Now,
as to why, I will be conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he
outlined in his JFK and also his other book called The Secret Team.
The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam War,
and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions: Did Rome want
the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is yes on both counts.
We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s War"—Cardinal
Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront many times and he called the American
soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the Commander of the American
forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t
know, but he was General William Westmoreland.
So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was
prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s
boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason.
He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree
Freemason.
And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and the
picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The American Pope. So, Johnson was
completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-
in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The
Secrets, DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could
call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.
Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the Jesuits of
Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam,
the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t
need Rome.
There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been decided that
about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They would later continue
this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging
of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the
Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled
by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War.
The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican controls all of
the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of the cocaine, everything going
around in Columbia.
Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler
had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set
up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the
sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald
Reagan.
So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that drugs running
out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with Rome, is not controlled by
Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of Columbia, they’d end the concordat.
The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the country of Columbia,
subject to the Jesuit General.
And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago, out of China.
They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie Shogun is but a slight scratching of
the surface of the Jesuit "black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and
gold and opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.
The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade that
would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA with their Air
America, and then distributed by the Trafficante family throughout the United States—
Santos Trafficante out of Miami.
So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the
Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.
The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted
Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the Vietnam War.
The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the CIA had
betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the cover to the Cuban
patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—
he was a bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel Castro.
Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which sacrificed all the
patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro had no real opposition. This
was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with
Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that
revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and
KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials.
It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men who truly want
to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay
of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power.
And, of course, it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So
now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He
signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away
from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA was "Wild"
Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most fanatical, and his brother was
a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the
first head, to solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it.
I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The American
Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did, there would be a
march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the hierarchy, I’m showing
that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he was going to do away with the CIA.
Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into the CIA because
the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen
went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its
Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he
kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the
Red Army would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that
would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way,
justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the intelligence
arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey was a Knight of
Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through and through.
Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a direct
link to the Vatican.
So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the end of him.
Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the Vietnam War, and
also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by printing United States
Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman Catholic president.
And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not Protestants, like
Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist the
temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even though Kennedy
was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he resisted the temporal power of the
Pope. And for that we should be thankful and remember his name.
But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it into the dirt.
Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his womanizing, which I don’t
deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some credit where credit is due? That’s why
they got rid of John F. Kennedy.
And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head of the CIA,
the following day goes to the White House and they reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum
of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte blache war.
The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA war. And there
they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity machines, their men who they’re
trying to make like the "million-dollar man". They tried out all their new technology in
Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and
he knew that the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried
to resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most powerful
Knight of Malta in the Empire.
Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?
Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted
to find his father’s real killers, and he had the power to publish the conclusion. So, they
took him out right away. They would not allow that to happen.
Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out?
Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a
Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are operating in
His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power.
Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation.
Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think for one moment they’re
not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is here. We’re talking about a
providential, sovereign God who wishes to move, using second causes, men, just as
the Devil does.
The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s one group of men vs. another
group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.
The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God anymore.
Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us who say: "Well, we’re
going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in His Power."
And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of
Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re going to tell the truth!
Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So much of it seems,
in a way, irrelevant to our current times because there’s so much going on now. But,
good grief! I was just stunned to read in your book of all the historical things that have
happened as a result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman
Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah
Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?
Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the priesthood and
told the truth about what was really happening. And all four of them, except one, I think
Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit
assassination of President Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The
Church Of Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and
that it was covered-up by our government at the time.
Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and, seeing the
corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt, he left it and exposed
it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they
would call a Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible. Protestantism of
today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the Bible.
Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed, that helped me
with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their Knights of Columbus—which,
he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after Columbus, who he tells us was a
Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of young girls—that Columbus was no
Christian.
He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of the Knights
of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of those politics was to restore the
temporal power of the Pope because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870
and they wanted to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929.
Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy Roosevelt
were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And he said they’re
going to use our military to restore the Pope’s temporal power around the world.
And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And the Council of
Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That’s what’s going on in Serbia and
Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb
those orthodox people to smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution.
Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People’s Padre; he wrote
Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more
lawless and more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from
the jails.
Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of Abraham
Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So,
Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was
born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a
virtuous and honorable life after he left.
The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican
because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969,
exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn
Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our
government—Ronald Reagan.
Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country
will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully,
and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.
They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between his teeth, trying
to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out, about a year or so later, they
couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he
went to another dentist. He had it removed.
He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill the man, and
finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about three years ago. But these four
wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its
attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I
dedicate it.
Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started it for you?
Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and foremost—America first,
and everybody else second. Later, when I came to know the Lord, at 17, I realized the
Bible taught the same thing—that the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never
instituted world governments; that’s always the result of the Devil’s working.
So, being a patriot and a nationalist—believing in national sovereignty—I was saved at
17, went into the Air Force, was garrisoned in a nuclear weapons area for three years in
Germany, came back and started to go to Bible college.
When I went to Bible college, the issue of the King James came up, as far as it being an
archaic version. And that’s what I used and I had never given it a thought. Well, some
were using NIV, some NASB, and I thought: "Well, maybe it’s just a modern version of
what I have here." And I thought: "Well, if they want to use that, that’s fine, but I’ll use
the King James."
I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James, the Textus Receptus, was the
Greek text of the Reformation. It represents 95% of the existing manuscripts that we
have today. The Greek text that underlies all these other versions—there’s a Westcott
and Hort Greek text, which I then discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate the
Textus Receptus in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and Anthony Hort, who were
Maryolitors, Mary-worshippers.
Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on the revision
committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the Anglican Church, with his Track
90, which blew-off the Anglican Church. He then left England and he was then a
Cardinal by Pius IX.
So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to sit on this
revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that had been produced that was
pro-Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. Jerome’s Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit’s Reheims-
Douay text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William Tyndale’s
English text, which later became the King James Version of 1611.
So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college, attempting to deprive me of the
Word of God, the authorized version of 1611, in it’s present edition of 1769. Now I
thought "Well, here the Jesuits are, what else have they done?" And the next thing I
was led to was the Lincoln assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty’s
The Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and weeping in
the back room, when I was in college.
Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your book was the series of
revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that.
Phelps: That’s what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to go along with the
14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states to re-enter the Union on the same
footing that they had left, which would have left us with a federal Republic as
Washington had established it. This the Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted
into an Empire. The states would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And the
14th Amendment would accomplish this with the reversion of citizenship. And Lincoln
was re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and that’s why they killed him. Kennedy
was ready to implement his things; they would not let him be re-elected.
Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The Jefferson Bible?
Phelps: The Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know this—is Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the pagan that he was, cut out all the
supernatural from those three gospels. Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the
French Freemasons who were involved in the French Revolution, and he was not here
at the writing of our Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of the picture.
Jefferson was just used to help with the Revolution—because the Lord does use the
unGodly for good things. But Jefferson copied much of the Declaration Of
Independence from the Mechlenburg Declaration, written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of
North Carolina, when they seceded, when that county of Mechlenburg seceded from
the Colonies.
Martin: Never heard of it.
Phelps: Yes, you’ll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can find it from D. James
Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied, at the end: "...and to this end we
devote our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration. Jefferson was a plagiarist;
he was a high Freemason; and he was out of here at the time of the writing of our
Constitution. And the reason why the people of Virginia did elect him to office was
because he was a State’s Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and
that was a good thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything the king-
president John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws, because John Adams
wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and Jefferson got two terms for that.
Martin: I’m looking at some things that are a little further back now. The Secreta Monita.
What’s the significance of that?
Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this interview] are the
handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits, those under extreme oath. [The oath
is presented in full at the end of this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their
plans, subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to the temporal
power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It shows how they are to swindle
rich widows out of their fortunes, like they did with Astor’s second wife who survived the
Titanic catastrophe. It shows their general approach on how to do things.
This particular book cannot be known, and if it’s ever published, they will deny it’s
existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits have done, it’s in complete
agreement with the Secreta Monita.
There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin’s book The Engineer Core Of
Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another suppressed work. It’s usually in the archives of
all the older libraries back here. And he shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered
in South America by a Mason, and the Mason managed to escape to a lodge after
being shot. He turned the Secreta Monita over to the lodge, and then these certain
Freemasons saw the Secreta Monita. There are certain low-level Freemasons who
believe that the Jesuit Order is their enemy, so that’s why it was taken to the lodge and
then published. But the high-level Masons, of course, work with them. The Secreta
Monita was discovered once that way. It was published in Holland. Then, in 1857,
reprinted by England.
Martin: Pascal’s Provincial Letters had a devastating impact on exposing the Jesuits.
Why?
Phelps: Blaise Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So here we have another
fearless man. He doesn’t fear death; he’s going to tell the truth. So Blaise Pascal wrote
a series of letters that were written to and from provincials, and he wrote them in a
satirical manner, that of course excited that wonderful French mind. The French, of
course, came to the conclusion that this was absolutely the truth, and then they moved
to suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial Letters are considered a classic.
Blaise Pascal also wrote some other great works, too.
Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely in 1773, and was
murdered as a result.
Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned.
Martin: The Order was similarly abolished 39 times from different kingdoms throughout
Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that something was terribly wrong with this
group!
Phelps: Right. Are all those people bigots? Are all those people brainwashed bigots and
fanatical Protestants who abolished the Jesuit Order?
You find the greatest resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic countries, by Catholic
monarchs. And that’s why the Roman Catholic monarchs and nobility of today don’t
dare resist them. The Kennedys won’t touch them. The monarchs of Europe won’t
touch them. The Hapsburgs won’t touch them, because the Jesuits have vindicated
their power in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars—well, then they went to
suppress the Jesuits again in Europe and they were, for the most part, kicked-out of
Europe in the 1800s. All the nations of Europe banned them. Germany banned them in
1872. And so, World War I and II, the second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for this.
And ever since then, nobody touches them.
Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the Jesuits call it a "brief". It is
not a brief; it is in the Library of the Bulls, and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor.
That is the name of a bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished them forever—
that they were not to talk about their abolition, that they were not to teach. He
confiscated all of their wealth and land and property. For the most part, the Dominicans
took it over, which is why the Dominicans had their penis cut off during the French
Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to them. It was payback by the Jesuits: "You
don’t dare take our property from us, boy. And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us."
Jacobins killed nearly every Dominican in France.
Martin: Why was the assassination of William of Orange so significant?
Phelps: Williams of Orange was the father of religious liberty. William of Orange is the
man who gave the Jews the freedom to come to Amsterdam. And the Jews called
Amsterdam, "the new Jerusalem". William of Orange was a Catholic to begin with.
Remember when he was in the forest, hunting with the king of France, and the king of
France lay bare to him their plans to destroy all the Protestants in Holland, William kept
silent. And that’s why he was called "William the taciturn" or "William the silent".
So, he harbored all of this in his heart, and he went back to Holland determined that he
would deliver the Calvinists and the Protestants from this annihilation. William went to
Germany with his German wife, and he, according to Motley in his The Dutch Republic,
raised an army of Germans and they did not succeed in liberating Holland. And so, it
was the Dutch themselves who joined William of Orange in an attempt to liberate the
country, which they ultimately did as the "wild beggars of the sea".
So, William was a great inspiration. He delivered flight from the seige of the fanatical
Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits, when the Lord providentially delivered
and sent a strong wind over the dikes, and flooded the whole area, and flooded the
Spanish soldiers.
And then, after that happened, He sent another strong West wind and blew the water
back over the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why don’t we hear this in history? For the
same reason we don’t hear when Louis XIV brought his army across the river into
Holland to kill all those Dutch, in 1672, right around there, that the river, right where the
army was crossing, thawed out, and the whole French army went to the bottom of the
river, as a result of the prayers of those Protestants of Holland. We’re not taught that
either!
The assassination of William of Orange was probably the second most significant act of
Jesuit dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at St. Bartholomew’s Massacre.
Because it was first St. Bartholomew’s massacre, and then the murder of William of
Orange. And, of course, William of Orange was shot by a Jesuit-controlled assassin,
Balthazar Girard, in his own house. And the last words of William, of course, were: "God
be merciful to these poor people."
Martin: What is the Royal Institute of International Affairs?
Phelps: The Royal Institute of International Affairs is the same as the American Council
on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal Institute runs England and the British Empire,
what was once the extension of the British, just as the CFR runs our country. They’re
sister organizations.
Martin: Where are they based?
Phelps: They’re based in London.
Martin: And who is their head; do you know?
Phelps: I don’t know right now. The John Birch Society wrote a lot about that, and they
did expose the CFR and the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Allan Stang has
written a lot about that.
Martin: What was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605?
Phelps: The Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt to destroy what William
Howitt—and Howitt was the great writer who wrote A Popular History Of Priestcraft,
1835—he said it was a Jesuit attempt to destroy our Great King Solomon, King James I,
along with the entire Protestant Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I had
expelled the Jesuits from her empire, and if they were ever caught they were to be
drawn and quartered.
After she died, the conspiracy went on there that went on with William Cecil. They
named Mary Queen of Scott’s son as the King of England, rather than Elizabeth’s son,
because Elizabeth had a son who was the Earl of South Hampton, Wriothesley, and
that was the son of Edward Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare.
There was no William Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran the Globe
Theater. He was the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth, and he secretly had
a son who was the Third Earl of South Hampton. He was the rightful heir to the thrown,
not King James VI of Scotland.
You can find all this documented in two great works: the first is called Shakespeare
Identified and the author is Looney. The explosion of that book is called This Star Of
England, written by Carlton and Dorothy Ogborn, in 1952, and it’s a 1200-page work,
and in it they explain all the plays of Shakespeare, and that they are, in the words of
Hamlet: "A brief abstract and chronicle of the times." Nothing but history.
And then there’s another book, Wasn’t Shakespeare Someone Else?, written by
Tweeny, and in that book he evaluates the 150 sonnets. In those sonnets Edward
Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or Vere—he puts his name in acrostics throughout
all the sonnets. And the last couple sonnets he puts his name in double acrostics. It’s
amazing, showing that he wrote the sonnets.
Martin: Why were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of Nantes, and what was it’s
significance?
Phelps: Ok, the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes—it can be spelled Nantes or Nantz.
Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put forward by King Henry IV. King Henry IV was a
Roman Catholic, but he converted to Protestantism and he became a Huguenot. But he
was not allowed to take the throne of France until he renounced his Protestantism. So,
for the sake of the kingdom, he renounced his Protestantism, and in 1610, I believe,
issued forth the Edict of Nantes.
The Edict of Nantes guaranteed religious freedom to all the French. That included the
Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course included those who would have
followed Admiral Coligny, who the Jesuits murdered with that she-wolf, Catherine de
Medici. With the Edict of Nantes we have religious liberty in France. This cannot be.
France is a cornerstone of Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be in place. The
Council of Trent condemns it, because it’s freedom of conscience.
So, after they murder Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed him through his heart,
according to Sully in his memoirs, they murdered Henry IV for this, and also for
attempting to reinforce the Dutch. They then, in 1685—when the Beatles are singing
about the "Sun King" in their "white" album, they’re singing about Louis XIV. And that’s
telling you that the Beatles are Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King, Louis XIV who reigned,
who rules over France for, I believe, 60 years, he, because of his Jesuit confessor,
Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict of Nantes, and with that, no more religious freedom
in France.
And then they sent their French dragons out and beheaded and killed every Huguenot
they could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the country, the wealth of France, the
manhood of France, all left for Holland and England. That destroyed France. From then
on, France became a nothing nation.
The French Revolution could never have happened had not the Revocation of the Edict
of Nantes taken place. Because now, there’s no Bible in France. And to this day, the
French have never published a French version of the Textus Receptus. Number one, all
French Bibles have been produced in foreign countries, when they’ve been translated
from the Greek Textus Receptus into French; France has never done it. That shows the
Jesuit power over France to this day.
And the French have probably been the most manly, the strongest, the most gracious,
the most determined in kicking the Jesuits out of their country. They’ve kicked them out,
to my knowledge, three times—and again, they come back, foment wars, kill off the
rulers, etc. Drive Eugene Sue into exile; he dies of a broken heart. Drive Calvin into
exile; he can never return to France. All the great Frenchmen are driven into exile.
So we have, as American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for the French. They
helped us in our American Revolution. And why did they help us? Because they’ve
been expelled from France. Why did Spain help us? Why did they help finance our
Revolution? The Jesuits had been expelled from Spain. So payback came for Spain
and France, for helping this heretic, Protestant nation come into existence, with the
Napoleonic Wars, when they killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons from the Spanish
thrown. That was payback.
Martin: For 30 years of war, from 1618-1648, you state that the Jesuits, through
Ferdinand II, killed-off 10 million people. That’s quite a statement.
Phelps: That statement comes from Ridpath’s History Of The World, published in 1899.
And that is his encyclopedia of his history of the world. That was common knowledge in
1899. The 30 Years War was hell on Earth for Europe. Two-thirds of Germany was
brought back to Rome. It was leveled, plundered, and destroyed.
Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman Catholic generals who raped, pillaged,
and plundered everything in their path. But the Lord raised up certain great generals
like Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden. He was called the "Snow King" and he was the
one who ultimately, he paved the way for the victory of the 30 Years War.
But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace of Westphalia, which
the Pope was not invited to, there would have been no modern era as we know it today.
According to any historian, the modern era begins in 1648. That is when the 80 Year
War in Holland ended with Spain. That is when the 30 Years War ended with Ferdinand
II and the Protestants of Germany, and Sweden, and so-on.
1648 is the wonderful year in which the Modern Era began, when inventors could go to
Germany and say: "Well, you know, maybe the Earth isn’t flat." And maybe
Leeuwenhoek could invent the microscope in Holland, and now, later on, James Clerk
Maxwell, who was a Bible-believing, Protestant Presbyterian, he can write his treatise
called Electricity And Magnetism, the father of what we know today about electricity and
magnetism. Now, science can blossom and bloom. Now we can have literature. Now we
can have great writers, like Sir Walter Scott, who writes great works like Ivanhoe and
Peveril Of The Peak. Now we can have Charles Dickens, another Protestant, who
writes A Tale Of Two Cities, one of London and the other of Rome. We have great
literature surfacing as a result of the Modern Era.
But the Jesuits, in their determination to destroy the Reformation and the Modern Era
and bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse the effects of the Modern Era, and
thus, what was brought about by the 30 Years War. And to know the 30 Years War is to
understand the second 30 Years War, which started in 1914 and ended in 1945.
Martin: In 1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan. Apparently the Jesuits
never forgot that.
Phelps: They never forgot it. For over 200 years they have been expelled. And
remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits never forget nor forsake."
So, payback time was coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled them, so that
dynasty was targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be destroyed or his dynasty would
end. And so payback time was the mass fire-bombings by the American Air Force,
financed by the Jesuits, as the Jesuits own Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and
Grumman, and they used their B-29 to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get the
fact that the Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro Manhattan’s The
Vatican Billions.
Martin: I’m trying to get a little more current here, but some of this older stuff is also so
fascinating, I’m going back and forth here. Our readers are just going to have to be a
little flexible in their reading. (laughter)
Phelps: Right.
Martin: In 1649 there was the Irish Massacre. What was it, and let’s discuss the hatred
between the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, as a result of the Irish Massacre.
Phelps: Ok. Of course, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
freedom of the press. That is an outgrowth of Protestantism, because all Protestants
were defending their right to believe the Bible in the face of Rome’s expectations to
believe the priests and the decrees of the Popes.
Many of the Irish were born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much preaching was
done up there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick’s Day, was no Catholic. He was a
Protestant. And so, he was a great Protestant preacher of Ireland, and many, many Irish
came to know the Lord. And their point of location was primarily in the North, in
Northern Ireland, which today is Ulster, Belfast, etc.
Well, the Jesuits, in fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are making and waging
relentless war on all Protestants, and all political liberals, they hatched-out the plot to
kill all the Irish Protestants in Ireland with the O’Neil family. And I wonder if that O’Neil
family was related to Tip O’Neil?
In 1641, the massacre began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles and the mobs in
Ireland. When they started that massacre, it continued from 1641 to 1649. The
massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but they still taught the Catholic children to
kill the Protestant children. So, Irish Protestants were being massacred, enmasse, for 8
years.
This is NEVER told whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver Cromwell, when
Cromwell came up with his Puritan Army and ended that, when he took Drogheda, and
killed every living thing in Drogheda—men, women, children, animal, everything.
Ones say: "Oh, the beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to Drogheda!" What about
those beasts killing those Irish Protestants for 8 years, bashing out the brains of the
little babies, smashing them up against the walls like they did, led by the priests?
This was just like they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War II, when they gouged-
out the eyes of all the Serbians, where one particular priest had 23 kilos worth of eyes.
They were doing the same thing to the Irish Protestants.
So, when Cromwell came up, and it was vengeance for the Irish Massacre, and the Irish
Massacre was NOT started by the Protestants, it was started by the Jesuits according
to Fox’s Book Of Martyrs. And you can find the whole narration there, which was a
classic that all Englishmen used to read with the King James Bible.
Martin: Do you believe that Great Britain is truly Protestant-controlled, Jewish-
controlled, or Jesuit-controlled?
Phelps: Jesuit-controlled.
Martin: Why?
Phelps: Well, let’s go back. To understand today we have to go back to the Napoleonic
Wars.
When Napoleon came to power, he was brought to power in Corsica. When the Jesuits
were suppressed, one of their main outposts during their suppression was the Isle of
Corsica. The Jesuits, remember, had finished the High Rites of Freemasonry with
Frederick the Great, and then used their French Freemason Napoleon to execute their
vengeance.
However, the Jesuits were also protected during their suppression in England. A very
wealthy landowner—and you can find this in Ridpath’s History Of The World—gave his
wonderful, beautiful estate Stonyhurst to the Jesuit Order. And from then on, the Jesuits
received protection by King George III, and you will find that in Mitchell’s The Jesuits.
Mitchell is an English historian.
Ok, so the Jesuits are now protected by King George III. Well, they’re going to uphold
his throne. The Jesuits use the English army and navy in the resistance of Napoleon,
as both sides are controlled, so that the Jesuits can control the outcome.
The end result is that, after Napoleon accomplishes everything that the Jesuits want
him to do—the expulsion of the Knights of Malta, the driving of the Roman Catholics
from their throne, imprisoning the Pope for 5 years, etc.—Napoleon is then ordered to
abandon his army in the snows of Russia, killing all of those French and German
patriots, so that there are very few patriots left in Europe to resist the tyranny coming in
France with Louis XVIII, who the Jesuits will put back on the throne.
Louis XVIII was in exile, in England, in King George’s own parlor, waiting for the end of
the Napoleonic Wars. So, the Jesuits put Louis XVIII back on the throne. He readmitted
the Jesuits, started the Inquisition, just like they did with Ferdinand VII when they
restored him to power in Spain after the Napoleonic Wars.
And where do these monarchs get their protection? From King George III. King George
was used by the Jesuits to restore their power in Europe, after the Napoleonic Wars,
after they punished the Pope and the monarchs.
So, it’s been, really, from 1795, right around there, that the Jesuits have controlled
England. They’ve controlled the Knights, they’ve controlled the King. All throughout the
18th century, now, England will never go to war with France again. England will side
with the French during the Crimean War. England will be on the side of the French
during World Wars I & II. England and France are together, both controlled by the
Jesuits—even though France is predominantly a Catholic country, and when England
was, at least on it’s face, a Protestant country. Why should both be working together,
both having the same foreign policy. Why? Because the Jesuits control both countries.
When Rothschild sent that note, via Roost, into London, saying that Napolean had won
the Battle of Waterloo, that’s when the stocks plummeted, and all the Jesuits bought all
the stocks up, there in London, and got control of the Bank of England. The Jesuits
then made London their commercial center of the world, and Rome their religious
center, aiming that one day Jerusalem would be both.
So now the Jesuits are in control of England. After the Napoleonic Wars, we have the
Congress of Vienna in 1815, and guess who’s there? All the representatives of King
George. England is represented at the Congress of Vienna, the settlement after the
Napoleonic Wars. If England was truly Protestant, they would have never went there.
Now the Jesuits are in control of England throughout the 1800s, and they use the
British Empire to further the power of the Pope. England has been under Rome’s
control, the Pope’s control, since, at the very latest, 1850. And I say since 1795.
Martin: Let’s talk about Elizabeth II.
Phelps: Elizabeth II is a wicked, evil queen. She is the head of the Knights of Malta in
England. She curtsies to the Lord Mayor in Old London, and she goes and visits the
Jesuits of Stonyhurst and kisses their derrières. She has complete allegiance to the
Jesuits of Stonyhurst, and will do anything they tell her to do, or they’ll get rid of her just
like they got rid of all the rest of the monarchs in Europe.
Martin: So you see her as a pawn.
Phelps: She’s just a pawn, sure. She’s nothing. Remember, White men rule the world.
Evil, White, sodomite, homosexual men rule the world, and these are the High Jesuits,
with their High Knights of Malta and High Freemasons, they rule. And these women
who are involved are just pawns in their game, like the queen, the queen of Holland,
just to give the appearance that these nations have a sovereign monarch, when in fact,
they’re just tools.
England has done some awful, terrible things, but all of the things that they have done
increase and benefit the Jesuit Order. They never resisted Napoleon III. Napoleon III
was a fanatical Roman Catholic Freemason, subject to the Jesuits, who was the King of
France for 18 years, second Empire. England never resisted him. They fought with him
in the Crimean War. And Napoleon III dedicated all of his ships to the Virgin Mary.
England has been on the side of the Jesuits since 1815, no later. So, that means that
the British Secret Service is totally working for Rome, all throughout the 1800s.
Martin: How did the Jesuits regain control of the Vatican in 1814?
Phelps: Remember that they were in control of Napoleon. A Jesuit by the name of Abbie
Sieyes—you can find him, again, in Ridpath’s History Of The World—Abbie Sieyes was
a Jesuit-trained individual, and I believe he was a Jesuit. He was on the Directory, and
he was also on the Consulate; he was the second counsel. Napoleon was the first; he
was the second. He was the advisor and director of Napoleon. Abbie Sieyes, being the
Jesuit that he was, ordered Napoleon to imprison the Pope for 5 years, and he did! So,
the Pope was in prison for 5 years until 1814, when he restored the Jesuit Order. The
Pope, prior to that, was killed. They brought him over the mountains of the Alps, and he
died through that debacle.
The Jesuits thoroughly humiliated the papacy. They used their French soldiers to
overturn St. Peter’s chair, and they found, written in Arabic: "There is no other God but
Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." And THAT is what is under St. Peter’s chair
today. That was stolen from some kalif during the Crusades.
So, they completely intimidated the Pope and showed their power. The Pope then
restored them with a Papal Bull, calling upon the vengeance of the Apostles Peter and
Paul, blah, blah, blah, for anyone who would ever suppress the Jesuit Order ever
again. When the Jesuits were "reinstalled" in all their power, that’s when they were in
control of the Pope, and from then on they have been.
Any Pope who resists them gets punished or murdered. And all the Popes know it.
When Pius IX wanted a liberal constitution for the Italian people in 1849, all of the
Italians were delighted. Here is a liberal Pope; he’s going to give us constitutional
rights; we’re going to have a constitution.
The Jesuits raised up a revolution with Garibaldi and their Freemasons, and drove Pius
IX from his throne. He had to stay in Gaeta for about a year. When he returned to
Rome, under the protection of Napoleon III’s French army—actually, it was the republic’
s army that would later be his "army of the empire"—but they returned with a French
army, protecting the Pope, he became the most fanatical absolutist, pursuant to the
wishes of the Jesuits.
So, Piux IX was punished. But the Popes who don’t obey, like, what was it, In God’s
Name, the Pope who was murdered after 33 days, when he didn’t go along with the
Jesuit Order, they ended his life.
[Editor’s note: Eric is here referring to the very well researched and deeply insightful
1984 Bantam Books gem (that’s very hard to find, for "some" reason!) by David A.
Yallop, called In God’s Name, which details the author’s thorough investigation into the
murder of Pope John Paul I the night of September 28-29, 1978 after John Paul had
been digging into the massive web of corruption surrounding the Vatican Bank. For all
of you who look for clues, note well the choosing of day 33 since his election for the
execution of the murder.]
When you steal from the Vatican, like the Cardinal did at the PII Lodge, they killed him
(Kalvi), and they hanged the other guy, beginning with the admiralty jurisdiction, at their
first bridge of the sea. So they have their assassins everywhere to carry out orders.
They are machines. They are the perfect "Manchurian Candidates" and they will kill
popes, cardinals, presidents, kings, and kaisers, to maintain Jesuit power. They are
utterly ruthless—just like they said they would be in the Protocols: "We are merciless."
Martin: As you look around the world today, who do you see opposing them?
Phelps: It’s interesting. I have a friend who makes quite a few trips to Haiti. I told her
about the Jesuits. She got to questioning a few people, and she found that Papa Doc
had expelled the Jesuits from Haiti.
Martin: No kidding?
Phelps: That’s right. Isn’t it interesting, his son was also driven from power and the guy
put in his place, I believe it was Aristide, is a member of the Council on Foreign
Relations and a complete pawn of the Pope and the Jesuit Order—for which reason,
when those Haitians wanted to drive Aristide from his power, this filthy, Jesuit-controlled
government in Washington put an embargo against Haiti, wrecking the country. See
how the U.S. government uses its military, political, and financial power to maintain the
temporal power of the Pope? And that’s not only in Haiti; it’s everywhere. Russia is
another example.
Martin: Don’t you see, coming up soon in Israel, some of these powers coming head-to-
head over the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple? Don’t you see some conflicts with the
powers that be?
Phelps: Which powers are you talking about?
Martin: I don’t know; there seem to be so many involved.
Phelps: We first have to remember the creation of the nation of Israel. World War I
prepared the land for the people. World War II prepared the people for the land. World
War III, the battle of Armageddon, will "prepare the people for their messiah"—with
national repentance and realizing that "Jesus, the messiah, is the savior and will deliver
them".
The present government of Israel was set up by the High Masonic Rothschild-controlled
Jews, and Rothschild has had an alliance with the Jesuit General since 1876, with
Adam Weishaupt. This is the very same Rothschild powers who betrayed the Jews into
the hands of the Nazis, killing many Jews all throughout Europe, betraying their own
Jewish people. These are the very same powers who run the nation of Israel today.
I read a very interesting paragraph by Mark Lane in his book Plausible Denial when he
tells about a Jew in Israel who wrote about certain criminal Jews, involved with the
Nazis, who are now with the Mossad, something along those lines. The man who wrote
the article was gunned-down in front of his home.
So, Rome controls the Israeli government. It controls the Israeli government through the
Mossad.
Who trained the Mossad? Reinhard Gehlen.
We find that fact in Loftus’ work The Secret War Against The Jews in most telling,
telling detail.
So what do we have? We have high-level treason and betrayal of the Jewish race; that
is there in Israel today, by their own leaders, who are loyal to Rome and the Jesuit
Order. And to show this, we have a great big Rockefeller edifice in Jerusalem; we have
an ophthalmology center in Jerusalem run by the Knights of Malta. There’s nothing but
Knights of Malta, high-level Freemasonry, and the Jesuit Order running all of Israel.
So what’s going to happen, I believe, with the Dome of the Rock is, that has got to be
removed—somehow, someway. It’s on the Temple site; it has to be removed.
If I was the Jesuit General, I would make— somehow, someway—American bombers do
it. Because I want to create universal hatred for this nation of the United States,
because in the United States there are more Protestants and more Jews than any
country in the world, and "we’ve" got to kill all those people. So what better way than to
create a Jihad, a Moslem fanatical attack against the United States, coupled with a
Chinese invasion from the East. That’s what I think is going to happen.
The Jews are not going to destroy that Temple site because, if they do, Rome will
destroy their efforts of rebuilding the Temple.
Because, if Moslems control all of Jerusalem, that Temple will never be rebuilt. It has to
stay in Jewish hands—because the Jews, and rightfully so, need their own homeland.
They’re entitled to the nation. And they haven’t had their own Temple of worship. They
are rightfully entitled to that.
But what they don’t know is that they are being used by the Jesuits to rebuild their own
Temple, that they would love to have rebuilt, for the Pope, so he can sit there and be
the man of sin, the Anti-Christ of the Book of Daniel, Chapter 9. That’s what I see
coming for Israel.
The assassination of Rabin? He wanted to give away too much. He probably wanted to
give away some of Jerusalem. The Jesuits will never allow that. So, his bodyguards just
step aside and the Mossad kills him. And nothing more is ever heard.
Rome’s—the Jesuit General’s—international intelligence community carries out all high-
level assassinations, kills anybody who’s against their program. And Cromwell knew
this, back in his day, and that’s why he protected himself—160 of his finest "ironsides"
as his bodyguards, and no one got to him.
So anybody who’s going to resist the Jesuit Order has to be doing it as a matter of a
"religious" conviction—being protected by God and good men who are loyal to Him. If it’
s simply political, with a hired Secret Service, you can forget it.
Martin: Let’s go back to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Why is that so significant?
You talk about the American Pope. Again, that person is?
Phelps: Cardinal O’Connor.
Martin: Now, what is his role in the United States?
Phelps: Ok, remember first that this title "American Pope" was gotten from Conney’s
work. John Conney wrote The American Pope, I believe in 1988, so a lot of this
information is from that document.
The American Pope is the Cardinal of New York. He is the most powerful Cardinal in
the United States. He is what’s called "the military vicar".
The military vicar is in command of all of the military orders within the United States,
they being the Knights of Malta and the Knights of Columbus. He is also in command,
and privately, of "the Commission" because Cardinal Spellman was an intimate of Joe
Kennedy, and Joe Kennedy was an intimate of Frank Costello.
We also see that it was Cardinal Spellman who enabled "Lucky" Luciano to be released
from the prison in New York, to return to Italy in 1946. And this was because of the
Luciano Project that I mentioned in my book. But Lucky Luciano, his Mafia on the East
Coast, worked in conjunction with the U.S. Navy, supposedly to protect the Eastern
seaboard from German U-boat attack.
So, as payback? Cardinal Spellman releases Lucky Luciano—that filthy, wicked, evil,
heartless spiritual bastard, who compelled young girls into prostitution, probably one of
the cruelest things any man could do. He is released and sent back to Rome.
When the Kennedy assassination comes up, the Cardinal needs a favor. After all, he’s
released Luciano. So now the Mafia gets to participate: Jack Ruby, Carlos Marcello,
Santos Trafficante, all the High Dons participate. Why? Because that Cardinal in New
York controls the Commission.
And that Commission, you know what it controls? All of the trucking, all the
supermarkets, it’s power is beyond our wildest imagination, second only to the Knights
of Malta. And, of course, they all control the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Cardinal controls the Federal Reserve Bank through the Council on Foreign
Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations belongs to the Cardinal. Spellman was not
a member of it, during his day, but two of the most powerful members were Knights of
Malta: Henry Luce and J. Peter Grace, and also William F. Buckley, to this day. William
F. Buckley is indeed one of my enemies, because I name him, and he is a powerful
multi-billionaire who participated in the Kennedy assassination, just like Iacocca,
another Knight. Both of those men are subject to Cardinal O’Connor and will do
ANYTHING he says.
Martin: Do you know who is head of the Knights of Malta, now?
Phelps: Yes; his name is Flynn. He took over when Grace died in ’93. Flynn is head of
the American branch. The head of the worldwide branch, the international Knights of
Malta, is Andrew Bertie; he’s an Englishman. And you can find that in the National
Catholic Reporter, when you go after their various articles on the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Do the Knights of Malta actually meet, actually hold meetings with the Jesuits?
Phelps: Oh, sure. Remember that Alexander Haig is a powerful Knight of Malta. His
brother is a Jesuit.
So, sure they have meetings. The High Knights of Malta, who meet in their palace on
Aventin Hill, in Rome, of course, meet with the Jesuit General, and so on. And Count
von Hoensbroech, who was a German Noble who became a Jesuit for 14 years—he
wrote a two-volume work called Fourteen Years A Jesuit. His father was a Knight of
Malta. Yes, the Jesuits work in conjunction and have regular meetings with the Knights
of Malta.
The Knights control the money. The Knights control the banks. They control the Bank
of Canada, Federal Reserve Bank, Bank of England; they control the banking. They
were the ones who were behind the sinking of the Titanic, with the creation of the White
Star Line, J.P. Morgan and others.
Martin: Alan Greenspan, then, would be?
Phelps: Alan Greenspan is a Jew, probably a Freemason, because he is the leader of
the Temple called the "Federal Reserve Bank" and they always put Jews in the
forefront—so that they can blame all of what they do on the Jewish race in this country,
to create an anti-Semitism everywhere, just like Charles Coughlin, the radio Jesuit
priest of the ’30s did.
Greenspan, Bloomenthal, Warburg, and all those Jews need to be publicly rebuked,
because they are creating the mass genocide of the Jewish race in the United States.
The Jews are being blamed right now for the foreign policy in Bosnia. Madeline
Albright—she’s a Jew—they’re blaming her for what’s going on in Serbia. I’ve got a
good Serbian friend who blames her. I said she’s just a pawn of the Jesuit CFR. Don’t
blame the Jewish people. It’s these Jewish "pawns" who are loyal to the Pope and the
Jesuits who are doing this.
The Zionists—the Jesuits are the Great Zionists. They control all of the historical High
Zionists—Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir. Zionism is a Masonic term,
coined by the Jesuits. They are the rulers; they are the Protocols; they are the Elders of
Zion. So the Zionists are, indeed, evil and wicked; but they are controlled by Rome. The
Jews are not all Zionists.
I remember when I went to Jerusalem and Israel in 1976, and a lady said to this
particular man that I had met: "You’re more of a Zionist than we are!" And I thought:
"What does that mean? I don’t understand that."
I only later understood why Yasser Arafat says he doesn’t hate the Jews; he can’t stand
the Zionists. And I’m thinking: "What’s the difference?" I, later, learned that there is a
great difference between those Zionists and the other Jews. The Orthodox Jews can’t
stand the Zionists.
So what’s the difference? The Zionists are socialist communists, controlled by Rome.
They are atheists, just like the Jesuits, although they’re being used to rebuild the nation
of Israel. They are the enemies of the Jewish people, per se.
There’s no conflict going on in the Middle East. There’s no conflict going on with the
Arab nations. All of the Arab nations are under the command of Masonic kings or
iotollas. Saddam Hussein is no enemy of George Bush; they’re both brothers, brothers
of the lodge. That whole thing was set up to kill off a whole bunch of Arabs for the
protection of the Zionist state of Israel.
Martin: Well, Bush and Saddam were business partners. We’ve covered that in recent
past issues of our newspaper.
Phelps: Sure. That’s why they never killed Saddam. They could have easily killed him.
The CIA can kill anybody they want to. They could have easily killed Saddam and got
out. They could use their own Arab agents in there. Saddam was a very important tool.
Martin: Still is.
Phelps: Still is, sure. They keep the Arab peoples and nations at bay by controlling
them through their leaders. Or, when they start to get out of control in their Moslem
fanaticism, they then foment a war and kill off a whole bunch of them. Make sense?
Martin: There was a statement you made in your book about the Jesuits controlling the
Nation of Islam, and that was almost a surprising statement to read. I would think that
someone like Louis Farrakhan would be pretty adamant.
Phelps: Yeah, he would hate me for that one. Well, let’s think a little bit here:
Chicago is ruled by the Archbishop of Chicago, a Cardinal. It was Cody; I don’t know
who it is now. Do you think anything goes down in Chicago without the Cardinal’s
approval?
Where was the Nation of Islam founded? Chicago.
Where is Louis Farrakhan’s—that murderer’s—mansion? Chicago. He lives like a king.
What does he hand out? He hands out the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion to
all of deluded Black Nation of Islam people, so that they can hate the Jews, just like the
Klu Klux Klan.
That’s right. Those three little tidbits, right there, prove that the Nation of Islam is totally
under Jesuit control. They are going to be used to foment anarchy and agitation,
because they have an army called "the fruit of Islam", and they have millions of rounds
stored in all the major cities—guns stored everywhere, so that they can start the race
war. And when that happens, you see, then the brothers in Washington can implement
Martial Law, suspend the Constitution, and now the Jesuits have what they want.
So, they use these Blacks in the North, who hate the White people, for their own
destruction, for the destruction of the Black people themselves. And the Nation of Islam
is part of that.
When I was in the Air Force, and in jail for about 10-15 days, about 10 years ago, the
Nation of Islam was paramount, or tried to be paramount, there. All the Blacks in jail
become Moslems. It’s a "hate the White man" religion. Every White man is a White, blue-
eyed Devil. And they’re playing—the Zodiac killer, back in California many years ago,
all Moslems. So it’s a "hate the White man" religion, designed to foment agitation and
unrest.
Martin Lucifer King was intimately involved with them. The only problem is, Malcolm X
got on to it. He realized he was being used and he separated from it. Then he ceased
to be an agitator.
Martin: Malcolm X was way ahead of his time.
Phelps: Yeah. Malcolm X was a good guy.
Martin: Yes, he was.
Phelps: Malcolm X, even though he was used by the Jesuits, because he hated the
King James Bible, he was a great agitator. When he went to Mecca, he changed.
Martin: Yes, he did.
Phelps: And when he came back, he stopped being an agitator. He stopped hating the
White man. He started to set up the African-American Movement. And as a result, he
was assassinated by the high leaders of the FBI and the Nation of Islam.
And what do they both have in common? High-level Shriner Freemasonry.
And so, we have the Masons in control of the Nation of Islam and the Klu Klux Klan—
one agitating Blacks, and the other agitating Whites, to the glory of the Jesuit Order.
The other Civil Rights Movement had the Jesuits behind that—with LaFarge. Jesuit
LeFarge was a great mover and shaker of the Civil Rights Movements. And that
agitation resulted in amalgamation, race-mixing, the destruction of a White race and a
Black race, producing a nation of hybrids that cannot maintain free government.
That is what they proposed to do in the first Reconstruction, but it failed; so they
succeeded in the second Reconstruction in the ’60s. The Jesuits are masters of the
races. They know their strengths and their weaknesses.
The only race who successfully resisted the Jesuit Order is the White, Anglo-Celtic,
Saxon race, with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other. And so they’ve got to take
the Bible away, they’ve got to take the gun away, and they’ve got to destroy that race.
And that’s what they are essentially doing here. I know that’s a racist statement, but I’m
sorry, it’s just the way it is. That’s history, and that’s what they’re doing.
Martin: The relationship between Communism and Freemasonry. Where do the Jesuits
fit into Communism and Freemasonry?
Phelps: Let’s, first of all, look at the relationship of Jesuitism to Communism. The
Jesuits perfected the tenets of Communism on their reductions in Paraguay, for 150
years, from 1600-1750.
Martin: What is a reduction?
Phelps: A reduction is a commune. In Israel they would call it a kibbutz. In Joseph Stalin’
s Russia they would call it a commune. In New York they call it a village. In France,
Paris, they called it a commune. It’s communal living where everybody is equal in their
finances, in the labors; you have no great, no small, no rich, no poor—everybody is
small, and everybody is poor, and everybody is controlled by a dictator. That’s the
essence of Communism.
The Jesuits, on the reductions in Paraguay, which were the communes, had a central
bank, and it was "each according to their ability and each according to their need". And
so, the Guarani Indians that were the subjects—and there were some 200,000 of these
South American Indian natives who were slaves of the Jesuits, putting their goods into
world commerce and trade. They were living under the tenets of Communism, perfected
by the Jesuits, as outlined in Plato’s Republic and Sir Thomas Moore’s Utopia. The
Jesuits perfected it on their reductions.
With that, they then introduced Communism in 1848 through Karl Marx. They tutored
him in the British Museum, according to Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit.
So Marx, the Jewish Freemason, was to be the one to put forward this Communism for
the world, so that Communism would look like a Jewish brain-child, so that Communism
could be blamed on the Jews. Well, what’s not told is that the Jews involved in the
implementing of Communism were Masonic Jews. Karl Marx was a 33rd-degree
Freemason, a worshipper of Lucifer, whose father wanted nothing to do with him,
because his father was a Baptist preacher.
Jewish Freemasonry, controlled by the Jesuits, implemented Communism in Russia.
Lenin, the half-Jew, was a Freemason. That civil war that took place from 1917-1922,
for 5 years, was given the appearance that it was primarily Yiddish. I mean, they’re on
the streets of Russia talking Yiddish; they had Yiddish signs; and it was wanted to give
the impression to the world that this revolution was of Jewish origin.
For 10 years after the revolution, the Jews faired very well, but in 1922, Joseph Stalin,
that great Jew-hater, who was educated by Jesuits in Georgia—which was a country
south of Russia and, therefore, the Emperor’s banning of the Jesuits from Russia, his
Ukase, did not reach to Georgia. So the Jesuits stayed in Georgia, trained Joseph
Stalin, brought him in after the Revolution, and made him Secretary of the Communist
Party in 1922, until he died in 1953.
The Jesuits used Freemasonry and, of course, Stalin was also a brother Freemason.
They used Freemasonry to implement Communism in Russia, and from there, China,
and from there, throughout the world.
When Germany had their revolution after World War I, their Communist revolution—
remember, they requested an armistice—they had never been beaten on the field of
battle.
The Germans were foisted into that war; they never started World War I. It was started
by France and Russia and England, for the purpose of destroying Germany, because
Germany had expelled the Jesuits. During that war, the Germans requested an
armistice to stop this Communist revolution in Germany.
And who lead the revolution? The German Freemasons.
According to the Kaiser, in his memoirs, it was German Freemasonry that got him off his
throne and deposed him. He had to go into exile in Holland. He wrote his memoirs in
1935.
So the relationship between Jesuitism, Communism and Freemasonry we see evolving
and expanding from the 1600s to the ultimate achievement in the Bolshevik Revolution.
In my book, I parallel the French Revolution and the Bolshevik Revolution, and they are
identical. It was French Freemasonry that caused the French Revolution and the
Jacobins, and it was the Freemasons in Russia, with Bolsheviks, who caused the
Russian Revolution, with their Bolsheviks, leading and ending in Joseph Stalin. In
France, it ended with Napoleon; in Russia, it ended with Stalin. And so, that’s the
relationship there.
Martin: Why was Eugene Sue so significant?
Phelps: Eugene Sue wrote his masterpiece The Wandering Jew, and in that
masterpiece he weaves a fantastic story from India to England to France, of the power
of the Jesuit Order and their attempt to destroy the Rennepont family, a French
Huguenot Protestant family, and acquire a fortune that’s due to be inherited by the
members of that family on a certain day, at a certain time, in a certain year.
Well, that fortune is held, in trust, by a Jew, for which reason the book is named The
Wandering Jew. It tells of the power of the Jesuit Order in that book, and how the
Jesuits mercilessly killed all these members of the Rennepont family so they could not
inherit their fortune.
The only one, I believe, they didn’t kill was a priest, whose name was Gabriel, who was
a decent and a righteous Catholic priest who repudiated the Jesuit Order. He ordered
the Jew to burn all the securities, that totaled something like $212 million, that would
have rightfully been this French family’s.
So, the Jesuits didn’t get it, nor did the French family get it. It’s written with such drama
and feeling that you cannot put this book down. It was translated into many different
languages. As a result, the French, and other nations, had their French Revolution, the
second French Revolution of 1848. But because it was not lead by Godly men, it
benefited the Jesuits.
Whenever you have a revolution led by unGodly men, it’s just like a man who’s on a
horse, trying to be pushed off the horse, and as he’s pushed off, another dictator takes
his place. That’s exactly what happened in France, and Italy, and the nations who were
involved in that second French Revolution.
But Eugene Sue had motivated the people of France to expel the Jesuits, and they
were finally expelled in 1880 by a French Freemason, in the 3rd Republic, Leon
Gambetta. So, they’re all Freemasons who resist them, but they pay with their lives, like
Garfield, like Gambetta, Roosevelt, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Roosevelt really didn’t resist
them; he just was killed by them.
Martin: Again, I’m jumping around.
Phelps: Ok.
Martin: What was Operation Mongoose?
Phelps: Operation Mongoose was purely "black ops" in the words of Fletcher Prouty. Of
course, Fletcher Prouty I consider the authority on what Operation Mongoose was.
Operation Mongoose was to "give the appearance" of resistance to Castro’s
government by attacking Cuba but, in effect, solidified his reign there. That’s what it
ultimately produced. And that’s what the Knights and the CIA ultimately wanted. Ok?
The agreement that Kennedy made over the Cuban missile crisis in 1962—first of all,
there was no missile crisis. There’s no such thing as nuclear war. There’s no such thing
as a nuclear attack. That’s all a hoax. It’s just as much a hoax as going and landing on
the Moon. It’s a hoax.
Nuclear war, that fear, was the basis for the Cuban missile crisis. And out of that hoax,
Kennedy strikes a secret deal with Khrushchev that, if you keep the missiles out of
Cuba, we won’t bother Castro anymore. Well, that’s what the Jesuits wanted anyway.
They wanted to solidify Castro in power.
So that whole theatrical performance solidified Castro’s power in Cuba. And the
question is: Why would the Jesuits create this fanatical power in Cuba, run down the
Cuban people, put them in poverty, imprison them at random, create a living hell down
there, drive out the Mafia—the Mafia could no longer have their casinos in Havana?
Why would the Mafia give up their casinos? For the international drug trade to be
developing out of Vietnam.
Therefore, if the Mafia is leaving, and we don’t have a bunch of American tourists going
down to Cuba anymore, and Cuba is really a secret country—the Bible is not allowed
there, missionaries are not allowed in, obviously under Jesuit control, Castro was
trained by Jesuits—what’s the purpose of Cuba under Castro?
It’s purpose is as a landing base for foreign invasion. They have hundreds of vehicles,
underground, in underground caves there, ready for a massive invasion to the East
Coast, primarily the South. Because the last of the Protestants in this country are in the
South.
Cuba will always be under a dictator and will never go back to freedom, because it is to
be a landing base. And you know what? It could very well be a landing base for a Jihad
that the Moslems will foment against us, because they’ll come right across from Africa to
Cuba, get reinforced, and then go landing into Florida, with all their 5th-Column Cubans
in Florida and Miami right now. Sounds wild, but—.
Martin: That’s a sobering thought.
Phelps: Yes, it is. Sounds wild, but I’m telling you, all the geography is in place.
However, they can’t pull this all off until they get your guns. So that’s why they’re
constantly creating these gun issues—people shooting people, the Columbine High
School bit—to justify the confiscation of all the guns. And when that happens, then they
can do what they want to do.
Martin: There are a lot of strong Americans out there.
Phelps: The only problem is this: they’re not united and they can’t be lead. Americans
are leaderless because they do not follow. They all think their opinions are equal, and
they’re not. I would follow General Patton anywhere. I wouldn’t question an order of his.
We don’t have men like that today, for the most part, because we don’t have leaders
like that today.
Martin: I found your account of Patton’s assassination fascinating, also your speaking of
the Jesuits’ poisoning of him.
Phelps: A member of the OSS came out in the Spotlight [newspaper] and said that. His
name was Zapata, that agent. He said he was given a contract on Patton for $10,000.
He didn’t kill him, but he knows the guy who did. So, Patton was murdered, and
General Vlasov was murdered, and both of them hated the Jesuits’ "Grand Inquisitor",
Joseph Stalin. They would have united together to eradicate Russia of that dictator, but
the Jesuits would not have it because Russia is theirs. They must control the Orthodox
Church to bring it back to Rome. That’s why they got rid of the Romanoffs.
Martin: Patton’s take-out was ordered by "Wild" Bill Donovan? Did I read that?
Phelps: That’s right. Wild Bill Donovan was the head of the OSS at the time. And if you
get Anthony K. Brown’s The Last Hero, it’s on Wild Bill Donovan. He is in the Vatican at
the end of his life, in a picture, walking in the Vatican to receive one of the highest
medals from the Pope, for a "lifetime" of intelligence service to the Vatican. That is in
The Last Hero and the picture is mesmerizing. I want to put it in my book.
The OSS is nothing but an arm of the CIA and the Vatican, and that’s why they took out
Kenendy. They kill all the generals who don’t "play ball".
Martin: Let’s talk about the CIA and the FBI some more. What can you tell me about
their relationship to Count von Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Well, based upon the past, if the CIA and the FBI carried out the assassination
under Spellman, and Janseens was the Jesuit General then, the same power structure
is in place. So, von Kolvenbach, through his Knights of Malta and Jesuits, control the
FBI and CIA. And his liason of control is now Cardinal O’Connor in New York.
Martin: Some time ago, with Gunther Russbacher and others, there was talk about a
split in the CIA, of different factions. Some even say there is a third faction in the CIA
that has split off. What’s your opinion about factional divisions within the CIA?
Phelps: I think it’s true. I know that Angelton was the mole. Angelton was the one who
betrayed all those CIA agents in Russia, in which the vast majority of them were killed,
when he gave all that information to that KGB kingpin on a farm in New York, in a van,
The "Black" Pope
Count Hans Kolvenbach -- The Jesuit's General
4/15/00 RICK MARTIN
The SPECTRUM Newspaper, May 2000
So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on
the "conspiracy" playing field? You've maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped
into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the
scenes.
You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who
invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the
biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling
the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral
Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite"
families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in
Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World
Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master
deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.
While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are
about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don't
mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public
view, and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars
probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented
here.
To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as mild an
understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes
the entire slant of the entire playing field!
After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with
Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no
other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to
just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us
almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another
forty.
We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work
by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share this material with at
least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly
after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help
you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and broad-
sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.
Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding New World Order
agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has
been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet
remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to
possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true,
otherworldly cultural heritage.
When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the
purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments in high school history
class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated
intrigue.
In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off
the floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just
say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’
ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the
pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general
attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing business.
Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically
important material here in The SPECTRUM.
We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions. And there is probably no
more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous notions-shattering example of that than
what is being presented here. The interview is directly followed by a number of
pertinent excerpts from Eric’s eye-opening book—which will be available July 1.
[Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the information presented below is the
studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at The SPECTRUM find much about his
presentation of his historical research which meshes with and expands upon Truth
which has been presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And
that is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh.
However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which typically has cultivated
a more aware spiritual perspective than the general public—we do not want to give the
impression that we agree with (or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric’s
presentation having to do with his personal "religious" convictions. The focus of those
convictions follows a much more biblically conventional (literal) path—in stark contrast
to the unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical material.
Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own—for you to sort and
interpret as you see fit—rather than being singled-out to be addressed editorially.
However, in this case, the practical side of Eric’s stated religious convictions include the
condoning of some degree of violence (or violent protest) and use of armaments. And
such convictions are very much the opposite of our philosophical position—for many
reasons, not the least of which is the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which
would result from choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency responses to
schoolroom Earth’s current challenges.
Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines" thoughtfully, there is
glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual message in Eric’s commentary—of "Have
the courage to speak The Truth" and "God helps those who help themselves"—which
we certainly DO agree with wholeheartedly and have long supported enthusiastically.
We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet. The Light of Truth,
intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging many to step forward and share
what they know. Will such ones follow that nudge or continue to hide in fear? The
answer to that question is perhaps the most important aspect of schoolroom Earth’s
relentless testing at this critical time.
One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts & Entertainment
(A&E) cable television channel just started to air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new
two-hour documentary called: The Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can study it
carefully; within the lines of dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries
are many, many clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of
course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having read and
digested the following.]
Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your book is so
comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global control by the Jesuits, dating
back to 1540. I would like to begin our conversation with a very important point of
clarification so that our readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical
narrative we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most
compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have ever read. I
want to tell you, I am impressed!
You, literally, link every major global conflict and political assassination to the hands of
the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many other groups you mention, have been the
unwitting pawns in this Jesuit Agenda.
Today, the present. I’m going to start here, and then we’re going to go way back in time
and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it will give a foundation for
going back in time.
Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black
here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the
actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?
Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came
to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is
Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof.
Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person,
Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he
hail from?
Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.
Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?
Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of
Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit
headquarters.
Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?
Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s
headquarters of the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?
Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.
Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the
Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?
Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers.
They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not
believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.
Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the
time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite
a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re
involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their
black capes and so on.
Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the world knows
who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.
Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top Jesuits—just a
second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography,
by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in
1995.
Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page
of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach.
He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black
man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff.
One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White
men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.
Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General?
Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for life—unless he becomes a
"heretic".
Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?
Phelps: I would say that they’re the "professed", the high 4th Degree. When a Jesuit is
professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my
book.
Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our paper?
Phelps: Of course, absolutely.
Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and it’s similarity to the Protocols
Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and I wrote that question before I got back to the
Protocols portion of your book.
Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols because they have carried out every
protocol in that little handbook. They have carried everything out. And, Alberto Rivera
says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate,
Protestants, and Baptists in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick.
Jack Chick published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V, & VI.
Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who published the
Protocols. Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because they, and
they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to pass.
They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The
owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is
a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights
of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while
they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that
they would create "amusements".
Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason—Disneyworld,
Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with Hersey Park. They create all of these
amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’
re busy overthrowing the Protestant form of government.
Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the high
Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the
Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the
Mafia Commission resides in New York.
Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal
friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And that has not changed.
So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos,
the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s
only Jews who are front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia
and for the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was
Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and he
would never say a word about it.
Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there’s anything that you don’t want me to print,
please let me know because, literally, I’m going to print everything we say in this
conversation.
Phelps: That’s fine, that’s fine with me because it needs to be said.
Martin: Let’s get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine the spotlight on this
guy for just a little bit here. Let’s talk about him. What does he do? Who is he? Let’s talk
about his position as "General". How do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does
the Pope know he’s a pawn?
Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you want me to deal with?
Martin: Let’s just shine the light right on the Count.
Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok.
Martin: Let’s start there, and you tell me everything you want to tell me about that
position.
Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total dictator and autocrat of
the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move. The provincials are his major
subordinates. There are around 83 provincials right now.
As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83 regions. Ok? For each
region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10 provincials in the United States. There
is one for Central America. There is one for Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into
these provinces.
So it’s old Babylonian provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit
General himself; so it’s strictly a Roman form of government where all the states or
provinces are subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He meets with
his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation, he gets the information
from the provincial of that country, how best to go about this, the demeanor of the
people, and then he uses legitimate grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil
Rights Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end result
was more consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was
written by [the longtime President of the University of Notre Dame, the Reverend]
Theodore Hesburgh.
The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the provincials then, of
course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many Jesuits who are not "professed", so
many of the lower Jesuits have no idea what’s going on at the top. They have no
concept of the power of their Order.
It’s just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the High Shriner
Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think that they’re just doing works
and being good people. But the bottom line is that the high-level Freemasons are
subject, also, to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great,
wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when
Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by the Pope in 1773.
So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful Freemason
they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their suppression. That is an irrefutable
conclusion. And then, when you see the Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and
the Napoleonic Wars carried out by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the
Jacobins, whatever they did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order.
It’s to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte Cristo. The Count
is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ. The Count of the Mount of Christ.
Alexander Dumas was talking about the Jesuit General getting vengeance when the
Jesuits were suppressed, and many of them were consigned to an island, three hours
sailing, West, off the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their
power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who had suppressed them, drove
them from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from Malta, using Napoleon.
And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian patriots in 1848, to free Rome from the
temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and one of the books was to expose
this, and that was The Count Of Monte Cristo.
So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it’s really a satire on the Jesuit Order
regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte Cristo has an intelligence
apparatus that can’t be beat. Well, that’s the Jesuit Order.
But the Count doesn’t get what he really ought to have, or his last wish, and that’s the
love of woman. He gains back all of his political power; he gains back everything he
lost; but he doesn’t have the love of a woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They
have no women. They have no love of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a
woman, means you have an allegiance to your wife and family, and you cannot obey
the General. That’s why they will NEVER be married, and that’s one of the great KEYS
to their success.
They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish Catholics getting
on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us in Vietnam and walk away. They can
betray us every time we go to the hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and
walk away, because it’s "for the greater glory of God"—Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the
greater glory of the god who sits in Rome.
Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?
Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from
Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.
Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important?
Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first
started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and
set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed,
came back, went to school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea
to just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola.
Martin: Yes.
Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was wounded at a battle
between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was shattered. Well, the French
General, because Loyola was very brave in conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend
Loyola. So they set the leg and sent him back to his home—which, of course, he was
royalty to the Counsel of Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques.
Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg—it had healed improperly, so he
made a rack where he would stretch the leg, with severe, horrible, awful pain—and
trying to stretch this leg to get it back to normal shape, he endured awful, terrible pain.
He had it rebroken, again, a couple of times and it still did not heal properly, so he had
a perpetual limp. He could no longer be the courtier among women, and as a result, he
went into this depression, and he then had this vision of the saints, etc., etc., and he
wrote his spiritual exercises.
I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I’ll take up from there. Loyola
then wanted to form an army, but when this happened with his spiritual exercises, those
spiritual exercises would be basic training for all of his Jesuits. That’s what they will ALL
go through. That’s what every Jesuit goes through today.
One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior says "black is white
and white is black", then that’s the way it is. That is in his spiritual exercises. That is
what is quoted in JFK, when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we’ve
got to start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." That was a Jesuit
giveaway that the Jesuits produced that movie, because they’re quoting Ignatius Loyola
in that movie from his spiritual exercises.
So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set his mind to regain
back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And so, he went to the Pope, and
the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But this man is a soldier, he’s a lawyer,
and he put together a legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had lost,
as well as institute a World Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in 1540.
He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and he was released,
and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet of the Pope. He would be
completely at his service. The Pope chartered him, and that Pope was Pius III. The
Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit Order; now he has Papal protection, and they
began their awful history of deeds of blood. And war after war after war after war, they’
re all attributed to the Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic nobles, with lots of money,
donated castles and schools and money to the Jesuit Order.
Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by them. Of course, they
stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World War II. They stole all their gold, all their
assets and everything, whenever they went into a country. What’s just been released is
NOTHING compared to what they’ve taken.
In Edmond Paris’s book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The Vatican Against
Europe, it gets into great detail of what they did. It calls it—the last 30 years of war is all
attributable to the Jesuits, their massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond
Paris did not understand that the Jesuit General—and this is one of the most important
points I want to make about Von Kolvenbach—the Jesuit General is in complete control
of the international intelligence community: that’s the CIA, the FBI, the KGB, the Israeli
Mossad, the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is in COMPLETE
CONTROL of the entire intelligence apparatus—FBI, every bureaucratic agency in this
country, all of it; he is in complete control of it.
So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual, they put in the Social
Security number, and everything from all of the intelligence apparatus kicks-in and he
and his provincials can review everything about that man. Credit cards, you name it,
everything that’s attached to Rome’s social security number, which FDR put upon us in
1933 with the help of Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop, or maybe it
was Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in office.
The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity, the income tax, and
recognizing Joseph Stalin’s bloody Jesuit USSR government. So, with the giving of us
the Social Security number, that is Rome’s number—that’s why I refuse to use it—and
that’s why they want everybody using it for everything: driver’s license, tax return, credit
card, everything you do, that number is you and that number is Rome’s number.
Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to mind is Louis Freeh, head
of the FBI.
Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of Columbus; I can’t prove
it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to be a Knight of Columbus.
And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh was the one
behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity. And his top sniper
was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon Horiuchi.
So, it’s Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI, who carried out all of
this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh and Lon Horiuchi are personally
accountable to Cardinal O’Connor of New York. And Cardinal O’Connor of New York is
the most powerful Cardinal in the country. He is the military vicar. And that’s why Bush
kissed his fanny for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O’Connor is the King of the
American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace, St. Patrick’s Cathedral,
"the little Vatican".
Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Of course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the Jesuits are like the SS of
the Catholic Church. They maintain order.
And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of Fordham University.
Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University, I believe he is an Irishman, is also
a member of the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the
Annual Report of the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and
rule over the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham
include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the book on the
Second Vatican Council.
Martin: Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the Council of Trent?
Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the Protestant Reformation.
Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all of the political liberty that we
know of today. There’s no such thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation.
There’s no such thing as private rights without the Reformation. There’s no such thing
as the Law of Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without
the Reformation.
So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace through faith
alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to Heaven—that all we need
is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the
Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were
no longer wanted because the people were getting the word of God in a Bible,
specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with these great revivals
breaking forth and the Reformation happening, nations were breaking away from the
power of the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor,
resigned and became a monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in
breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne and the Pope.
Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of money. The nations
were not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we call "foreign aid" in this
country. And so the Pope was very upset about his.
What’s he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us; they’re not under our
temporal or spiritual power; and it’s very important to remember that the Pope claims
two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with the breaking of his spiritual power, he
then lost his temporal power. In other words, he no longer had the ability to rule the
people through the king of the country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry
VIII.
So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of England;
he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in England, in Germany, in
Holland, and other places.
As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his demonisms, his "spiritual
exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member of the Spanish Alumbrados,
which is what we call the Illuminati today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to
regain back what had been taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through
Luther, Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those
men died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died peacefully, amidst the
power of the Jesuit machinations.
The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse and
condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who does not
believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy communion bread], and that his
literal blood is in the wine. That’s called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not
believe that is an accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is
outside the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in
justification by grace through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who believes that
the Pope is not the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines
were being put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which produced the Reformation,
and so the Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were preaching. This is all in
Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the Jesuits condemn
freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of conscience. So, no man has
the right to choose his own religion; no man has the right to publish what he feels is the
truth; and no man has the right to freedom of conscience.
Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the First Amendment.
The man who wrote the First Amendment was James Madison, who was a
Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland:
"If you don’t secure all those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia was
a Baptist/Calvinist state.
So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of the
Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his Institutes Of The Christian
Religion. Calvin [1536] wrote the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it
when he was 27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so
hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the day of his
death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It’s Calvin and his Institutes Of The
Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two
major documents.
Martin: Council of Trent was what year?
Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in Italy. So, it was a
Council that took place in the town of Trent, Italy.
The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was finished in 1648, after the
30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin’s Institutes, and is what the Church of
Scotland and the Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of Rome and
England. That document is a major document, and it’s not the new Westminster
Confession, it’s the old one of 1648, where they called the Pope the man of sin, that
Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced anti-Christian tyranny.
And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the spirit", which is the Word
of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter 6, and "the sword of just defense"—the
gun, the sword.
So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time for war, and we do
not refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s necessary. It was the Calvinists who gave us
our political liberty in England with Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent
Baptist. It was Calvinists in Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with
William of Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great
country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that Masonic
Lodge that last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a Baptist and a
Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of New York by one of his
captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists.
That’s why they didn’t surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why, when they were naked,
when they went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that because they were Bible-
believing Calvinists and they refused to submit to the tyranny of King George, who was
controlled by the Jesuits.
And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve lost everything. And those
very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment, secured their right to bear arms,
because they secured the right, the "sword of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit"
is contained in the First Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from them.
The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second Amendments.
Without those first two Amendments, all the others are nothing.
Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3 of the seventy. (laughter)
How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into law of the
Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called "Dirty Harry"—when they
heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they thought it was a movie about Harry Truman,
according to my Japanese pastor friend, Daniel Fuji, who has passed away.
Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast Democratic machine in
Missouri. Harry Truman takes over after FDR’s murder, because he was murdered in
the home of Bernard Baruch. When he did that, he then finished up the war with the
hoax called the dropping of the nuclear bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax
called the Cold War, that would enable the Vatican to knock over country after country
after country, and replace the leaders with dictators, subordinate to the Pope. That was
the purpose of the Cold War.
And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War Powers Act,
the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb shelters, etc. So the nation
was in kind of a frenzy.
When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under military or martial law, and
that’s when the flags in every courtroom, state and federal, began to be changed. And
every state flag and every U.S. flag is now trimmed in gold fringe. And whenever you
see a flag trimmed in gold fringe, that means that it is the flag of the Commander-in-
Chief. Now, if it’s the state flag, it means that’s the flag of the governor, as Commander-
in-Chief. And if it’s the federal flag, or the national flag, more correctly, it’s the flag of the
Commander-in-Chief in Washington.
So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military rule. They all proceed with
summary procedures. The jury has no power of jury nullification. And they are simply
enforcing the laws of the Empire, which I call 14th Amendment America, which is a
military-style, King of England-style country. The courts are nothing more than courts of
the king’s bench, as you can see in Blackstone’s Commentaries.
And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a flag trimmed in gold fringe.
The bank is what England would call, in Blackstone’s day, the king’s bank. So, we have
the king’s bank, and we have the king’s bench. And it’s run according to military rule,
according to Berkheimer’s great work Military Rule And Martial Law, published in 1914.
When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great plan to put us under
the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war rule. "Daylight savings time" is
what was called "war time". This country only went to daylight savings time during
World War II, and they called it, at that time, war time. So, nothing’s changed. We’ve
never gone back to not turning back our clocks. We’re still on war time. The income tax
is a war tax. It was called a victory tax in 1942.
So, people are paying a war tax, they’re under war time, they’re under an emergency
war powers act, and the courts are war courts.
Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which could take this
entire interview, you say that the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General,
executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal
Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of
Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from
Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the assassination
to be an accurate representation of the facts?
Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly outlined [in his
book], and proven through two centuries of showing how it’s all been put together. Now,
as to why, I will be conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he
outlined in his JFK and also his other book called The Secret Team.
The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam War,
and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions: Did Rome want
the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is yes on both counts.
We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s War"—Cardinal
Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront many times and he called the American
soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the Commander of the American
forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t
know, but he was General William Westmoreland.
So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was
prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s
boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason.
He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree
Freemason.
And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and the
picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The American Pope. So, Johnson was
completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-
in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The
Secrets, DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could
call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.
Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the Jesuits of
Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam,
the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t
need Rome.
There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been decided that
about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They would later continue
this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging
of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the
Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled
by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War.
The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican controls all of
the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of the cocaine, everything going
around in Columbia.
Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler
had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set
up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the
sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald
Reagan.
So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that drugs running
out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with Rome, is not controlled by
Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of Columbia, they’d end the concordat.
The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the country of Columbia,
subject to the Jesuit General.
And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago, out of China.
They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie Shogun is but a slight scratching of
the surface of the Jesuit "black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and
gold and opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.
The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade that
would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA with their Air
America, and then distributed by the Trafficante family throughout the United States—
Santos Trafficante out of Miami.
So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the
Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.
The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted
Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the Vietnam War.
The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the CIA had
betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the cover to the Cuban
patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—
he was a bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel Castro.
Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which sacrificed all the
patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro had no real opposition. This
was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with
Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that
revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and
KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials.
It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men who truly want
to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay
of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power.
And, of course, it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So
now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He
signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away
from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA was "Wild"
Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most fanatical, and his brother was
a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the
first head, to solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it.
I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The American
Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did, there would be a
march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the hierarchy, I’m showing
that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he was going to do away with the CIA.
Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into the CIA because
the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen
went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its
Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he
kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the
Red Army would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that
would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way,
justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.
Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the intelligence
arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey was a Knight of
Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through and through.
Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a direct
link to the Vatican.
So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the end of him.
Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the Vietnam War, and
also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by printing United States
Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman Catholic president.
And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not Protestants, like
Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist the
temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even though Kennedy
was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he resisted the temporal power of the
Pope. And for that we should be thankful and remember his name.
But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it into the dirt.
Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his womanizing, which I don’t
deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some credit where credit is due? That’s why
they got rid of John F. Kennedy.
And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head of the CIA,
the following day goes to the White House and they reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum
of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte blache war.
The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA war. And there
they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity machines, their men who they’re
trying to make like the "million-dollar man". They tried out all their new technology in
Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and
he knew that the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried
to resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most powerful
Knight of Malta in the Empire.
Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?
Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted
to find his father’s real killers, and he had the power to publish the conclusion. So, they
took him out right away. They would not allow that to happen.
Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out?
Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a
Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are operating in
His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power.
Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation.
Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think for one moment they’re
not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is here. We’re talking about a
providential, sovereign God who wishes to move, using second causes, men, just as
the Devil does.
The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s one group of men vs. another
group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.
The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God anymore.
Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us who say: "Well, we’re
going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in His Power."
And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of
Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re going to tell the truth!
Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So much of it seems,
in a way, irrelevant to our current times because there’s so much going on now. But,
good grief! I was just stunned to read in your book of all the historical things that have
happened as a result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman
Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah
Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?
Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the priesthood and
told the truth about what was really happening. And all four of them, except one, I think
Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit
assassination of President Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The
Church Of Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and
that it was covered-up by our government at the time.
Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and, seeing the
corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt, he left it and exposed
it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they
would call a Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible. Protestantism of
today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the Bible.
Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed, that helped me
with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their Knights of Columbus—which,
he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after Columbus, who he tells us was a
Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of young girls—that Columbus was no
Christian.
He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of the Knights
of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of those politics was to restore the
temporal power of the Pope because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870
and they wanted to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929.
Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy Roosevelt
were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And he said they’re
going to use our military to restore the Pope’s temporal power around the world.
And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And the Council of
Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That’s what’s going on in Serbia and
Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb
those orthodox people to smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution.
Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People’s Padre; he wrote
Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more
lawless and more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from
the jails.
Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of Abraham
Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So,
Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was
born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a
virtuous and honorable life after he left.
The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican
because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969,
exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn
Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our
government—Ronald Reagan.
Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country
will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully,
and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.
They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between his teeth, trying
to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out, about a year or so later, they
couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he
went to another dentist. He had it removed.
He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill the man, and
finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about three years ago. But these four
wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its
attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I
dedicate it.
Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started it for you?
Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and foremost—America first,
and everybody else second. Later, when I came to know the Lord, at 17, I realized the
Bible taught the same thing—that the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never
instituted world governments; that’s always the result of the Devil’s working.
So, being a patriot and a nationalist—believing in national sovereignty—I was saved at
17, went into the Air Force, was garrisoned in a nuclear weapons area for three years in
Germany, came back and started to go to Bible college.
When I went to Bible college, the issue of the King James came up, as far as it being an
archaic version. And that’s what I used and I had never given it a thought. Well, some
were using NIV, some NASB, and I thought: "Well, maybe it’s just a modern version of
what I have here." And I thought: "Well, if they want to use that, that’s fine, but I’ll use
the King James."
I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James, the Textus Receptus, was the
Greek text of the Reformation. It represents 95% of the existing manuscripts that we
have today. The Greek text that underlies all these other versions—there’s a Westcott
and Hort Greek text, which I then discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate the
Textus Receptus in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and Anthony Hort, who were
Maryolitors, Mary-worshippers.
Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on the revision
committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the Anglican Church, with his Track
90, which blew-off the Anglican Church. He then left England and he was then a
Cardinal by Pius IX.
So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to sit on this
revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that had been produced that was
pro-Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. Jerome’s Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit’s Reheims-
Douay text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William Tyndale’s
English text, which later became the King James Version of 1611.
So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college, attempting to deprive me of the
Word of God, the authorized version of 1611, in it’s present edition of 1769. Now I
thought "Well, here the Jesuits are, what else have they done?" And the next thing I
was led to was the Lincoln assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty’s
The Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and weeping in
the back room, when I was in college.
Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your book was the series of
revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that.
Phelps: That’s what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to go along with the
14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states to re-enter the Union on the same
footing that they had left, which would have left us with a federal Republic as
Washington had established it. This the Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted
into an Empire. The states would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And the
14th Amendment would accomplish this with the reversion of citizenship. And Lincoln
was re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and that’s why they killed him. Kennedy
was ready to implement his things; they would not let him be re-elected.
Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The Jefferson Bible?
Phelps: The Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know this—is Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the pagan that he was, cut out all the
supernatural from those three gospels. Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the
French Freemasons who were involved in the French Revolution, and he was not here
at the writing of our Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of the picture.
Jefferson was just used to help with the Revolution—because the Lord does use the
unGodly for good things. But Jefferson copied much of the Declaration Of
Independence from the Mechlenburg Declaration, written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of
North Carolina, when they seceded, when that county of Mechlenburg seceded from
the Colonies.
Martin: Never heard of it.
Phelps: Yes, you’ll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can find it from D. James
Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied, at the end: "...and to this end we
devote our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration. Jefferson was a plagiarist;
he was a high Freemason; and he was out of here at the time of the writing of our
Constitution. And the reason why the people of Virginia did elect him to office was
because he was a State’s Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and
that was a good thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything the king-
president John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws, because John Adams
wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and Jefferson got two terms for that.
Martin: I’m looking at some things that are a little further back now. The Secreta Monita.
What’s the significance of that?
Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this interview] are the
handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits, those under extreme oath. [The oath
is presented in full at the end of this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their
plans, subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to the temporal
power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It shows how they are to swindle
rich widows out of their fortunes, like they did with Astor’s second wife who survived the
Titanic catastrophe. It shows their general approach on how to do things.
This particular book cannot be known, and if it’s ever published, they will deny it’s
existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits have done, it’s in complete
agreement with the Secreta Monita.
There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin’s book The Engineer Core Of
Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another suppressed work. It’s usually in the archives of
all the older libraries back here. And he shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered
in South America by a Mason, and the Mason managed to escape to a lodge after
being shot. He turned the Secreta Monita over to the lodge, and then these certain
Freemasons saw the Secreta Monita. There are certain low-level Freemasons who
believe that the Jesuit Order is their enemy, so that’s why it was taken to the lodge and
then published. But the high-level Masons, of course, work with them. The Secreta
Monita was discovered once that way. It was published in Holland. Then, in 1857,
reprinted by England.
Martin: Pascal’s Provincial Letters had a devastating impact on exposing the Jesuits.
Why?
Phelps: Blaise Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So here we have another
fearless man. He doesn’t fear death; he’s going to tell the truth. So Blaise Pascal wrote
a series of letters that were written to and from provincials, and he wrote them in a
satirical manner, that of course excited that wonderful French mind. The French, of
course, came to the conclusion that this was absolutely the truth, and then they moved
to suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial Letters are considered a classic.
Blaise Pascal also wrote some other great works, too.
Martin: Pope Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely in 1773, and was
murdered as a result.
Phelps: Correct; he was poisoned.
Martin: The Order was similarly abolished 39 times from different kingdoms throughout
Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that something was terribly wrong with this
group!
Phelps: Right. Are all those people bigots? Are all those people brainwashed bigots and
fanatical Protestants who abolished the Jesuit Order?
You find the greatest resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic countries, by Catholic
monarchs. And that’s why the Roman Catholic monarchs and nobility of today don’t
dare resist them. The Kennedys won’t touch them. The monarchs of Europe won’t
touch them. The Hapsburgs won’t touch them, because the Jesuits have vindicated
their power in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars—well, then they went to
suppress the Jesuits again in Europe and they were, for the most part, kicked-out of
Europe in the 1800s. All the nations of Europe banned them. Germany banned them in
1872. And so, World War I and II, the second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for this.
And ever since then, nobody touches them.
Pope Ganganelli abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the Jesuits call it a "brief". It is
not a brief; it is in the Library of the Bulls, and it is called Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor.
That is the name of a bull. And when he abolished them, he abolished them forever—
that they were not to talk about their abolition, that they were not to teach. He
confiscated all of their wealth and land and property. For the most part, the Dominicans
took it over, which is why the Dominicans had their penis cut off during the French
Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to them. It was payback by the Jesuits: "You
don’t dare take our property from us, boy. And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us."
Jacobins killed nearly every Dominican in France.
Martin: Why was the assassination of William of Orange so significant?
Phelps: Williams of Orange was the father of religious liberty. William of Orange is the
man who gave the Jews the freedom to come to Amsterdam. And the Jews called
Amsterdam, "the new Jerusalem". William of Orange was a Catholic to begin with.
Remember when he was in the forest, hunting with the king of France, and the king of
France lay bare to him their plans to destroy all the Protestants in Holland, William kept
silent. And that’s why he was called "William the taciturn" or "William the silent".
So, he harbored all of this in his heart, and he went back to Holland determined that he
would deliver the Calvinists and the Protestants from this annihilation. William went to
Germany with his German wife, and he, according to Motley in his The Dutch Republic,
raised an army of Germans and they did not succeed in liberating Holland. And so, it
was the Dutch themselves who joined William of Orange in an attempt to liberate the
country, which they ultimately did as the "wild beggars of the sea".
So, William was a great inspiration. He delivered flight from the seige of the fanatical
Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits, when the Lord providentially delivered
and sent a strong wind over the dikes, and flooded the whole area, and flooded the
Spanish soldiers.
And then, after that happened, He sent another strong West wind and blew the water
back over the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why don’t we hear this in history? For the
same reason we don’t hear when Louis XIV brought his army across the river into
Holland to kill all those Dutch, in 1672, right around there, that the river, right where the
army was crossing, thawed out, and the whole French army went to the bottom of the
river, as a result of the prayers of those Protestants of Holland. We’re not taught that
either!
The assassination of William of Orange was probably the second most significant act of
Jesuit dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at St. Bartholomew’s Massacre.
Because it was first St. Bartholomew’s massacre, and then the murder of William of
Orange. And, of course, William of Orange was shot by a Jesuit-controlled assassin,
Balthazar Girard, in his own house. And the last words of William, of course, were: "God
be merciful to these poor people."
Martin: What is the Royal Institute of International Affairs?
Phelps: The Royal Institute of International Affairs is the same as the American Council
on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal Institute runs England and the British Empire,
what was once the extension of the British, just as the CFR runs our country. They’re
sister organizations.
Martin: Where are they based?
Phelps: They’re based in London.
Martin: And who is their head; do you know?
Phelps: I don’t know right now. The John Birch Society wrote a lot about that, and they
did expose the CFR and the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Allan Stang has
written a lot about that.
Martin: What was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605?
Phelps: The Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt to destroy what William
Howitt—and Howitt was the great writer who wrote A Popular History Of Priestcraft,
1835—he said it was a Jesuit attempt to destroy our Great King Solomon, King James I,
along with the entire Protestant Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I had
expelled the Jesuits from her empire, and if they were ever caught they were to be
drawn and quartered.
After she died, the conspiracy went on there that went on with William Cecil. They
named Mary Queen of Scott’s son as the King of England, rather than Elizabeth’s son,
because Elizabeth had a son who was the Earl of South Hampton, Wriothesley, and
that was the son of Edward Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare.
There was no William Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran the Globe
Theater. He was the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth, and he secretly had
a son who was the Third Earl of South Hampton. He was the rightful heir to the thrown,
not King James VI of Scotland.
You can find all this documented in two great works: the first is called Shakespeare
Identified and the author is Looney. The explosion of that book is called This Star Of
England, written by Carlton and Dorothy Ogborn, in 1952, and it’s a 1200-page work,
and in it they explain all the plays of Shakespeare, and that they are, in the words of
Hamlet: "A brief abstract and chronicle of the times." Nothing but history.
And then there’s another book, Wasn’t Shakespeare Someone Else?, written by
Tweeny, and in that book he evaluates the 150 sonnets. In those sonnets Edward
Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or Vere—he puts his name in acrostics throughout
all the sonnets. And the last couple sonnets he puts his name in double acrostics. It’s
amazing, showing that he wrote the sonnets.
Martin: Why were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of Nantes, and what was it’s
significance?
Phelps: Ok, the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes—it can be spelled Nantes or Nantz.
Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put forward by King Henry IV. King Henry IV was a
Roman Catholic, but he converted to Protestantism and he became a Huguenot. But he
was not allowed to take the throne of France until he renounced his Protestantism. So,
for the sake of the kingdom, he renounced his Protestantism, and in 1610, I believe,
issued forth the Edict of Nantes.
The Edict of Nantes guaranteed religious freedom to all the French. That included the
Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course included those who would have
followed Admiral Coligny, who the Jesuits murdered with that she-wolf, Catherine de
Medici. With the Edict of Nantes we have religious liberty in France. This cannot be.
France is a cornerstone of Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be in place. The
Council of Trent condemns it, because it’s freedom of conscience.
So, after they murder Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed him through his heart,
according to Sully in his memoirs, they murdered Henry IV for this, and also for
attempting to reinforce the Dutch. They then, in 1685—when the Beatles are singing
about the "Sun King" in their "white" album, they’re singing about Louis XIV. And that’s
telling you that the Beatles are Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King, Louis XIV who reigned,
who rules over France for, I believe, 60 years, he, because of his Jesuit confessor,
Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict of Nantes, and with that, no more religious freedom
in France.
And then they sent their French dragons out and beheaded and killed every Huguenot
they could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the country, the wealth of France, the
manhood of France, all left for Holland and England. That destroyed France. From then
on, France became a nothing nation.
The French Revolution could never have happened had not the Revocation of the Edict
of Nantes taken place. Because now, there’s no Bible in France. And to this day, the
French have never published a French version of the Textus Receptus. Number one, all
French Bibles have been produced in foreign countries, when they’ve been translated
from the Greek Textus Receptus into French; France has never done it. That shows the
Jesuit power over France to this day.
And the French have probably been the most manly, the strongest, the most gracious,
the most determined in kicking the Jesuits out of their country. They’ve kicked them out,
to my knowledge, three times—and again, they come back, foment wars, kill off the
rulers, etc. Drive Eugene Sue into exile; he dies of a broken heart. Drive Calvin into
exile; he can never return to France. All the great Frenchmen are driven into exile.
So we have, as American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for the French. They
helped us in our American Revolution. And why did they help us? Because they’ve
been expelled from France. Why did Spain help us? Why did they help finance our
Revolution? The Jesuits had been expelled from Spain. So payback came for Spain
and France, for helping this heretic, Protestant nation come into existence, with the
Napoleonic Wars, when they killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons from the Spanish
thrown. That was payback.
Martin: For 30 years of war, from 1618-1648, you state that the Jesuits, through
Ferdinand II, killed-off 10 million people. That’s quite a statement.
Phelps: That statement comes from Ridpath’s History Of The World, published in 1899.
And that is his encyclopedia of his history of the world. That was common knowledge in
1899. The 30 Years War was hell on Earth for Europe. Two-thirds of Germany was
brought back to Rome. It was leveled, plundered, and destroyed.
Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman Catholic generals who raped, pillaged,
and plundered everything in their path. But the Lord raised up certain great generals
like Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden. He was called the "Snow King" and he was the
one who ultimately, he paved the way for the victory of the 30 Years War.
But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace of Westphalia, which
the Pope was not invited to, there would have been no modern era as we know it today.
According to any historian, the modern era begins in 1648. That is when the 80 Year
War in Holland ended with Spain. That is when the 30 Years War ended with Ferdinand
II and the Protestants of Germany, and Sweden, and so-on.
1648 is the wonderful year in which the Modern Era began, when inventors could go to
Germany and say: "Well, you know, maybe the Earth isn’t flat." And maybe
Leeuwenhoek could invent the microscope in Holland, and now, later on, James Clerk
Maxwell, who was a Bible-believing, Protestant Presbyterian, he can write his treatise
called Electricity And Magnetism, the father of what we know today about electricity and
magnetism. Now, science can blossom and bloom. Now we can have literature. Now we
can have great writers, like Sir Walter Scott, who writes great works like Ivanhoe and
Peveril Of The Peak. Now we can have Charles Dickens, another Protestant, who
writes A Tale Of Two Cities, one of London and the other of Rome. We have great
literature surfacing as a result of the Modern Era.
But the Jesuits, in their determination to destroy the Reformation and the Modern Era
and bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse the effects of the Modern Era, and
thus, what was brought about by the 30 Years War. And to know the 30 Years War is to
understand the second 30 Years War, which started in 1914 and ended in 1945.
Martin: In 1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan. Apparently the Jesuits
never forgot that.
Phelps: They never forgot it. For over 200 years they have been expelled. And
remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits never forget nor forsake."
So, payback time was coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled them, so that
dynasty was targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be destroyed or his dynasty would
end. And so payback time was the mass fire-bombings by the American Air Force,
financed by the Jesuits, as the Jesuits own Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and
Grumman, and they used their B-29 to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get the
fact that the Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro Manhattan’s The
Vatican Billions.
Martin: I’m trying to get a little more current here, but some of this older stuff is also so
fascinating, I’m going back and forth here. Our readers are just going to have to be a
little flexible in their reading. (laughter)
Phelps: Right.
Martin: In 1649 there was the Irish Massacre. What was it, and let’s discuss the hatred
between the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, as a result of the Irish Massacre.
Phelps: Ok. Of course, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
freedom of the press. That is an outgrowth of Protestantism, because all Protestants
were defending their right to believe the Bible in the face of Rome’s expectations to
believe the priests and the decrees of the Popes.
Many of the Irish were born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much preaching was
done up there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick’s Day, was no Catholic. He was a
Protestant. And so, he was a great Protestant preacher of Ireland, and many, many Irish
came to know the Lord. And their point of location was primarily in the North, in
Northern Ireland, which today is Ulster, Belfast, etc.
Well, the Jesuits, in fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are making and waging
relentless war on all Protestants, and all political liberals, they hatched-out the plot to
kill all the Irish Protestants in Ireland with the O’Neil family. And I wonder if that O’Neil
family was related to Tip O’Neil?
In 1641, the massacre began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles and the mobs in
Ireland. When they started that massacre, it continued from 1641 to 1649. The
massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but they still taught the Catholic children to
kill the Protestant children. So, Irish Protestants were being massacred, enmasse, for 8
years.
This is NEVER told whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver Cromwell, when
Cromwell came up with his Puritan Army and ended that, when he took Drogheda, and
killed every living thing in Drogheda—men, women, children, animal, everything.
Ones say: "Oh, the beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to Drogheda!" What about
those beasts killing those Irish Protestants for 8 years, bashing out the brains of the
little babies, smashing them up against the walls like they did, led by the priests?
This was just like they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War II, when they gouged-
out the eyes of all the Serbians, where one particular priest had 23 kilos worth of eyes.
They were doing the same thing to the Irish Protestants.
So, when Cromwell came up, and it was vengeance for the Irish Massacre, and the Irish
Massacre was NOT started by the Protestants, it was started by the Jesuits according
to Fox’s Book Of Martyrs. And you can find the whole narration there, which was a
classic that all Englishmen used to read with the King James Bible.
Martin: Do you believe that Great Britain is truly Protestant-controlled, Jewish-
controlled, or Jesuit-controlled?
Phelps: Jesuit-controlled.
Martin: Why?
Phelps: Well, let’s go back. To understand today we have to go back to the Napoleonic
Wars.
When Napoleon came to power, he was brought to power in Corsica. When the Jesuits
were suppressed, one of their main outposts during their suppression was the Isle of
Corsica. The Jesuits, remember, had finished the High Rites of Freemasonry with
Frederick the Great, and then used their French Freemason Napoleon to execute their
vengeance.
However, the Jesuits were also protected during their suppression in England. A very
wealthy landowner—and you can find this in Ridpath’s History Of The World—gave his
wonderful, beautiful estate Stonyhurst to the Jesuit Order. And from then on, the Jesuits
received protection by King George III, and you will find that in Mitchell’s The Jesuits.
Mitchell is an English historian.
Ok, so the Jesuits are now protected by King George III. Well, they’re going to uphold
his throne. The Jesuits use the English army and navy in the resistance of Napoleon,
as both sides are controlled, so that the Jesuits can control the outcome.
The end result is that, after Napoleon accomplishes everything that the Jesuits want
him to do—the expulsion of the Knights of Malta, the driving of the Roman Catholics
from their throne, imprisoning the Pope for 5 years, etc.—Napoleon is then ordered to
abandon his army in the snows of Russia, killing all of those French and German
patriots, so that there are very few patriots left in Europe to resist the tyranny coming in
France with Louis XVIII, who the Jesuits will put back on the throne.
Louis XVIII was in exile, in England, in King George’s own parlor, waiting for the end of
the Napoleonic Wars. So, the Jesuits put Louis XVIII back on the throne. He readmitted
the Jesuits, started the Inquisition, just like they did with Ferdinand VII when they
restored him to power in Spain after the Napoleonic Wars.
And where do these monarchs get their protection? From King George III. King George
was used by the Jesuits to restore their power in Europe, after the Napoleonic Wars,
after they punished the Pope and the monarchs.
So, it’s been, really, from 1795, right around there, that the Jesuits have controlled
England. They’ve controlled the Knights, they’ve controlled the King. All throughout the
18th century, now, England will never go to war with France again. England will side
with the French during the Crimean War. England will be on the side of the French
during World Wars I & II. England and France are together, both controlled by the
Jesuits—even though France is predominantly a Catholic country, and when England
was, at least on it’s face, a Protestant country. Why should both be working together,
both having the same foreign policy. Why? Because the Jesuits control both countries.
When Rothschild sent that note, via Roost, into London, saying that Napolean had won
the Battle of Waterloo, that’s when the stocks plummeted, and all the Jesuits bought all
the stocks up, there in London, and got control of the Bank of England. The Jesuits
then made London their commercial center of the world, and Rome their religious
center, aiming that one day Jerusalem would be both.
So now the Jesuits are in control of England. After the Napoleonic Wars, we have the
Congress of Vienna in 1815, and guess who’s there? All the representatives of King
George. England is represented at the Congress of Vienna, the settlement after the
Napoleonic Wars. If England was truly Protestant, they would have never went there.
Now the Jesuits are in control of England throughout the 1800s, and they use the
British Empire to further the power of the Pope. England has been under Rome’s
control, the Pope’s control, since, at the very latest, 1850. And I say since 1795.
Martin: Let’s talk about Elizabeth II.
Phelps: Elizabeth II is a wicked, evil queen. She is the head of the Knights of Malta in
England. She curtsies to the Lord Mayor in Old London, and she goes and visits the
Jesuits of Stonyhurst and kisses their derrières. She has complete allegiance to the
Jesuits of Stonyhurst, and will do anything they tell her to do, or they’ll get rid of her just
like they got rid of all the rest of the monarchs in Europe.
Martin: So you see her as a pawn.
Phelps: She’s just a pawn, sure. She’s nothing. Remember, White men rule the world.
Evil, White, sodomite, homosexual men rule the world, and these are the High Jesuits,
with their High Knights of Malta and High Freemasons, they rule. And these women
who are involved are just pawns in their game, like the queen, the queen of Holland,
just to give the appearance that these nations have a sovereign monarch, when in fact,
they’re just tools.
England has done some awful, terrible things, but all of the things that they have done
increase and benefit the Jesuit Order. They never resisted Napoleon III. Napoleon III
was a fanatical Roman Catholic Freemason, subject to the Jesuits, who was the King of
France for 18 years, second Empire. England never resisted him. They fought with him
in the Crimean War. And Napoleon III dedicated all of his ships to the Virgin Mary.
England has been on the side of the Jesuits since 1815, no later. So, that means that
the British Secret Service is totally working for Rome, all throughout the 1800s.
Martin: How did the Jesuits regain control of the Vatican in 1814?
Phelps: Remember that they were in control of Napoleon. A Jesuit by the name of Abbie
Sieyes—you can find him, again, in Ridpath’s History Of The World—Abbie Sieyes was
a Jesuit-trained individual, and I believe he was a Jesuit. He was on the Directory, and
he was also on the Consulate; he was the second counsel. Napoleon was the first; he
was the second. He was the advisor and director of Napoleon. Abbie Sieyes, being the
Jesuit that he was, ordered Napoleon to imprison the Pope for 5 years, and he did! So,
the Pope was in prison for 5 years until 1814, when he restored the Jesuit Order. The
Pope, prior to that, was killed. They brought him over the mountains of the Alps, and he
died through that debacle.
The Jesuits thoroughly humiliated the papacy. They used their French soldiers to
overturn St. Peter’s chair, and they found, written in Arabic: "There is no other God but
Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." And THAT is what is under St. Peter’s chair
today. That was stolen from some kalif during the Crusades.
So, they completely intimidated the Pope and showed their power. The Pope then
restored them with a Papal Bull, calling upon the vengeance of the Apostles Peter and
Paul, blah, blah, blah, for anyone who would ever suppress the Jesuit Order ever
again. When the Jesuits were "reinstalled" in all their power, that’s when they were in
control of the Pope, and from then on they have been.
Any Pope who resists them gets punished or murdered. And all the Popes know it.
When Pius IX wanted a liberal constitution for the Italian people in 1849, all of the
Italians were delighted. Here is a liberal Pope; he’s going to give us constitutional
rights; we’re going to have a constitution.
The Jesuits raised up a revolution with Garibaldi and their Freemasons, and drove Pius
IX from his throne. He had to stay in Gaeta for about a year. When he returned to
Rome, under the protection of Napoleon III’s French army—actually, it was the republic’
s army that would later be his "army of the empire"—but they returned with a French
army, protecting the Pope, he became the most fanatical absolutist, pursuant to the
wishes of the Jesuits.
So, Piux IX was punished. But the Popes who don’t obey, like, what was it, In God’s
Name, the Pope who was murdered after 33 days, when he didn’t go along with the
Jesuit Order, they ended his life.
[Editor’s note: Eric is here referring to the very well researched and deeply insightful
1984 Bantam Books gem (that’s very hard to find, for "some" reason!) by David A.
Yallop, called In God’s Name, which details the author’s thorough investigation into the
murder of Pope John Paul I the night of September 28-29, 1978 after John Paul had
been digging into the massive web of corruption surrounding the Vatican Bank. For all
of you who look for clues, note well the choosing of day 33 since his election for the
execution of the murder.]
When you steal from the Vatican, like the Cardinal did at the PII Lodge, they killed him
(Kalvi), and they hanged the other guy, beginning with the admiralty jurisdiction, at their
first bridge of the sea. So they have their assassins everywhere to carry out orders.
They are machines. They are the perfect "Manchurian Candidates" and they will kill
popes, cardinals, presidents, kings, and kaisers, to maintain Jesuit power. They are
utterly ruthless—just like they said they would be in the Protocols: "We are merciless."
Martin: As you look around the world today, who do you see opposing them?
Phelps: It’s interesting. I have a friend who makes quite a few trips to Haiti. I told her
about the Jesuits. She got to questioning a few people, and she found that Papa Doc
had expelled the Jesuits from Haiti.
Martin: No kidding?
Phelps: That’s right. Isn’t it interesting, his son was also driven from power and the guy
put in his place, I believe it was Aristide, is a member of the Council on Foreign
Relations and a complete pawn of the Pope and the Jesuit Order—for which reason,
when those Haitians wanted to drive Aristide from his power, this filthy, Jesuit-controlled
government in Washington put an embargo against Haiti, wrecking the country. See
how the U.S. government uses its military, political, and financial power to maintain the
temporal power of the Pope? And that’s not only in Haiti; it’s everywhere. Russia is
another example.
Martin: Don’t you see, coming up soon in Israel, some of these powers coming head-to-
head over the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple? Don’t you see some conflicts with the
powers that be?
Phelps: Which powers are you talking about?
Martin: I don’t know; there seem to be so many involved.
Phelps: We first have to remember the creation of the nation of Israel. World War I
prepared the land for the people. World War II prepared the people for the land. World
War III, the battle of Armageddon, will "prepare the people for their messiah"—with
national repentance and realizing that "Jesus, the messiah, is the savior and will deliver
them".
The present government of Israel was set up by the High Masonic Rothschild-controlled
Jews, and Rothschild has had an alliance with the Jesuit General since 1876, with
Adam Weishaupt. This is the very same Rothschild powers who betrayed the Jews into
the hands of the Nazis, killing many Jews all throughout Europe, betraying their own
Jewish people. These are the very same powers who run the nation of Israel today.
I read a very interesting paragraph by Mark Lane in his book Plausible Denial when he
tells about a Jew in Israel who wrote about certain criminal Jews, involved with the
Nazis, who are now with the Mossad, something along those lines. The man who wrote
the article was gunned-down in front of his home.
So, Rome controls the Israeli government. It controls the Israeli government through the
Mossad.
Who trained the Mossad? Reinhard Gehlen.
We find that fact in Loftus’ work The Secret War Against The Jews in most telling,
telling detail.
So what do we have? We have high-level treason and betrayal of the Jewish race; that
is there in Israel today, by their own leaders, who are loyal to Rome and the Jesuit
Order. And to show this, we have a great big Rockefeller edifice in Jerusalem; we have
an ophthalmology center in Jerusalem run by the Knights of Malta. There’s nothing but
Knights of Malta, high-level Freemasonry, and the Jesuit Order running all of Israel.
So what’s going to happen, I believe, with the Dome of the Rock is, that has got to be
removed—somehow, someway. It’s on the Temple site; it has to be removed.
If I was the Jesuit General, I would make— somehow, someway—American bombers do
it. Because I want to create universal hatred for this nation of the United States,
because in the United States there are more Protestants and more Jews than any
country in the world, and "we’ve" got to kill all those people. So what better way than to
create a Jihad, a Moslem fanatical attack against the United States, coupled with a
Chinese invasion from the East. That’s what I think is going to happen.
The Jews are not going to destroy that Temple site because, if they do, Rome will
destroy their efforts of rebuilding the Temple.
Because, if Moslems control all of Jerusalem, that Temple will never be rebuilt. It has to
stay in Jewish hands—because the Jews, and rightfully so, need their own homeland.
They’re entitled to the nation. And they haven’t had their own Temple of worship. They
are rightfully entitled to that.
But what they don’t know is that they are being used by the Jesuits to rebuild their own
Temple, that they would love to have rebuilt, for the Pope, so he can sit there and be
the man of sin, the Anti-Christ of the Book of Daniel, Chapter 9. That’s what I see
coming for Israel.
The assassination of Rabin? He wanted to give away too much. He probably wanted to
give away some of Jerusalem. The Jesuits will never allow that. So, his bodyguards just
step aside and the Mossad kills him. And nothing more is ever heard.
Rome’s—the Jesuit General’s—international intelligence community carries out all high-
level assassinations, kills anybody who’s against their program. And Cromwell knew
this, back in his day, and that’s why he protected himself—160 of his finest "ironsides"
as his bodyguards, and no one got to him.
So anybody who’s going to resist the Jesuit Order has to be doing it as a matter of a
"religious" conviction—being protected by God and good men who are loyal to Him. If it’
s simply political, with a hired Secret Service, you can forget it.
Martin: Let’s go back to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Why is that so significant?
You talk about the American Pope. Again, that person is?
Phelps: Cardinal O’Connor.
Martin: Now, what is his role in the United States?
Phelps: Ok, remember first that this title "American Pope" was gotten from Conney’s
work. John Conney wrote The American Pope, I believe in 1988, so a lot of this
information is from that document.
The American Pope is the Cardinal of New York. He is the most powerful Cardinal in
the United States. He is what’s called "the military vicar".
The military vicar is in command of all of the military orders within the United States,
they being the Knights of Malta and the Knights of Columbus. He is also in command,
and privately, of "the Commission" because Cardinal Spellman was an intimate of Joe
Kennedy, and Joe Kennedy was an intimate of Frank Costello.
We also see that it was Cardinal Spellman who enabled "Lucky" Luciano to be released
from the prison in New York, to return to Italy in 1946. And this was because of the
Luciano Project that I mentioned in my book. But Lucky Luciano, his Mafia on the East
Coast, worked in conjunction with the U.S. Navy, supposedly to protect the Eastern
seaboard from German U-boat attack.
So, as payback? Cardinal Spellman releases Lucky Luciano—that filthy, wicked, evil,
heartless spiritual bastard, who compelled young girls into prostitution, probably one of
the cruelest things any man could do. He is released and sent back to Rome.
When the Kennedy assassination comes up, the Cardinal needs a favor. After all, he’s
released Luciano. So now the Mafia gets to participate: Jack Ruby, Carlos Marcello,
Santos Trafficante, all the High Dons participate. Why? Because that Cardinal in New
York controls the Commission.
And that Commission, you know what it controls? All of the trucking, all the
supermarkets, it’s power is beyond our wildest imagination, second only to the Knights
of Malta. And, of course, they all control the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Cardinal controls the Federal Reserve Bank through the Council on Foreign
Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations belongs to the Cardinal. Spellman was not
a member of it, during his day, but two of the most powerful members were Knights of
Malta: Henry Luce and J. Peter Grace, and also William F. Buckley, to this day. William
F. Buckley is indeed one of my enemies, because I name him, and he is a powerful
multi-billionaire who participated in the Kennedy assassination, just like Iacocca,
another Knight. Both of those men are subject to Cardinal O’Connor and will do
ANYTHING he says.
Martin: Do you know who is head of the Knights of Malta, now?
Phelps: Yes; his name is Flynn. He took over when Grace died in ’93. Flynn is head of
the American branch. The head of the worldwide branch, the international Knights of
Malta, is Andrew Bertie; he’s an Englishman. And you can find that in the National
Catholic Reporter, when you go after their various articles on the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Do the Knights of Malta actually meet, actually hold meetings with the Jesuits?
Phelps: Oh, sure. Remember that Alexander Haig is a powerful Knight of Malta. His
brother is a Jesuit.
So, sure they have meetings. The High Knights of Malta, who meet in their palace on
Aventin Hill, in Rome, of course, meet with the Jesuit General, and so on. And Count
von Hoensbroech, who was a German Noble who became a Jesuit for 14 years—he
wrote a two-volume work called Fourteen Years A Jesuit. His father was a Knight of
Malta. Yes, the Jesuits work in conjunction and have regular meetings with the Knights
of Malta.
The Knights control the money. The Knights control the banks. They control the Bank
of Canada, Federal Reserve Bank, Bank of England; they control the banking. They
were the ones who were behind the sinking of the Titanic, with the creation of the White
Star Line, J.P. Morgan and others.
Martin: Alan Greenspan, then, would be?
Phelps: Alan Greenspan is a Jew, probably a Freemason, because he is the leader of
the Temple called the "Federal Reserve Bank" and they always put Jews in the
forefront—so that they can blame all of what they do on the Jewish race in this country,
to create an anti-Semitism everywhere, just like Charles Coughlin, the radio Jesuit
priest of the ’30s did.
Greenspan, Bloomenthal, Warburg, and all those Jews need to be publicly rebuked,
because they are creating the mass genocide of the Jewish race in the United States.
The Jews are being blamed right now for the foreign policy in Bosnia. Madeline
Albright—she’s a Jew—they’re blaming her for what’s going on in Serbia. I’ve got a
good Serbian friend who blames her. I said she’s just a pawn of the Jesuit CFR. Don’t
blame the Jewish people. It’s these Jewish "pawns" who are loyal to the Pope and the
Jesuits who are doing this.
The Zionists—the Jesuits are the Great Zionists. They control all of the historical High
Zionists—Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir. Zionism is a Masonic term,
coined by the Jesuits. They are the rulers; they are the Protocols; they are the Elders of
Zion. So the Zionists are, indeed, evil and wicked; but they are controlled by Rome. The
Jews are not all Zionists.
I remember when I went to Jerusalem and Israel in 1976, and a lady said to this
particular man that I had met: "You’re more of a Zionist than we are!" And I thought:
"What does that mean? I don’t understand that."
I only later understood why Yasser Arafat says he doesn’t hate the Jews; he can’t stand
the Zionists. And I’m thinking: "What’s the difference?" I, later, learned that there is a
great difference between those Zionists and the other Jews. The Orthodox Jews can’t
stand the Zionists.
So what’s the difference? The Zionists are socialist communists, controlled by Rome.
They are atheists, just like the Jesuits, although they’re being used to rebuild the nation
of Israel. They are the enemies of the Jewish people, per se.
There’s no conflict going on in the Middle East. There’s no conflict going on with the
Arab nations. All of the Arab nations are under the command of Masonic kings or
iotollas. Saddam Hussein is no enemy of George Bush; they’re both brothers, brothers
of the lodge. That whole thing was set up to kill off a whole bunch of Arabs for the
protection of the Zionist state of Israel.
Martin: Well, Bush and Saddam were business partners. We’ve covered that in recent
past issues of our newspaper.
Phelps: Sure. That’s why they never killed Saddam. They could have easily killed him.
The CIA can kill anybody they want to. They could have easily killed Saddam and got
out. They could use their own Arab agents in there. Saddam was a very important tool.
Martin: Still is.
Phelps: Still is, sure. They keep the Arab peoples and nations at bay by controlling
them through their leaders. Or, when they start to get out of control in their Moslem
fanaticism, they then foment a war and kill off a whole bunch of them. Make sense?
Martin: There was a statement you made in your book about the Jesuits controlling the
Nation of Islam, and that was almost a surprising statement to read. I would think that
someone like Louis Farrakhan would be pretty adamant.
Phelps: Yeah, he would hate me for that one. Well, let’s think a little bit here:
Chicago is ruled by the Archbishop of Chicago, a Cardinal. It was Cody; I don’t know
who it is now. Do you think anything goes down in Chicago without the Cardinal’s
approval?
Where was the Nation of Islam founded? Chicago.
Where is Louis Farrakhan’s—that murderer’s—mansion? Chicago. He lives like a king.
What does he hand out? He hands out the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion to
all of deluded Black Nation of Islam people, so that they can hate the Jews, just like the
Klu Klux Klan.
That’s right. Those three little tidbits, right there, prove that the Nation of Islam is totally
under Jesuit control. They are going to be used to foment anarchy and agitation,
because they have an army called "the fruit of Islam", and they have millions of rounds
stored in all the major cities—guns stored everywhere, so that they can start the race
war. And when that happens, you see, then the brothers in Washington can implement
Martial Law, suspend the Constitution, and now the Jesuits have what they want.
So, they use these Blacks in the North, who hate the White people, for their own
destruction, for the destruction of the Black people themselves. And the Nation of Islam
is part of that.
When I was in the Air Force, and in jail for about 10-15 days, about 10 years ago, the
Nation of Islam was paramount, or tried to be paramount, there. All the Blacks in jail
become Moslems. It’s a "hate the White man" religion. Every White man is a White, blue-
eyed Devil. And they’re playing—the Zodiac killer, back in California many years ago,
all Moslems. So it’s a "hate the White man" religion, designed to foment agitation and
unrest.
Martin Lucifer King was intimately involved with them. The only problem is, Malcolm X
got on to it. He realized he was being used and he separated from it. Then he ceased
to be an agitator.
Martin: Malcolm X was way ahead of his time.
Phelps: Yeah. Malcolm X was a good guy.
Martin: Yes, he was.
Phelps: Malcolm X, even though he was used by the Jesuits, because he hated the
King James Bible, he was a great agitator. When he went to Mecca, he changed.
Martin: Yes, he did.
Phelps: And when he came back, he stopped being an agitator. He stopped hating the
White man. He started to set up the African-American Movement. And as a result, he
was assassinated by the high leaders of the FBI and the Nation of Islam.
And what do they both have in common? High-level Shriner Freemasonry.
And so, we have the Masons in control of the Nation of Islam and the Klu Klux Klan—
one agitating Blacks, and the other agitating Whites, to the glory of the Jesuit Order.
The other Civil Rights Movement had the Jesuits behind that—with LaFarge. Jesuit
LeFarge was a great mover and shaker of the Civil Rights Movements. And that
agitation resulted in amalgamation, race-mixing, the destruction of a White race and a
Black race, producing a nation of hybrids that cannot maintain free government.
That is what they proposed to do in the first Reconstruction, but it failed; so they
succeeded in the second Reconstruction in the ’60s. The Jesuits are masters of the
races. They know their strengths and their weaknesses.
The only race who successfully resisted the Jesuit Order is the White, Anglo-Celtic,
Saxon race, with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other. And so they’ve got to take
the Bible away, they’ve got to take the gun away, and they’ve got to destroy that race.
And that’s what they are essentially doing here. I know that’s a racist statement, but I’m
sorry, it’s just the way it is. That’s history, and that’s what they’re doing.
Martin: The relationship between Communism and Freemasonry. Where do the Jesuits
fit into Communism and Freemasonry?
Phelps: Let’s, first of all, look at the relationship of Jesuitism to Communism. The
Jesuits perfected the tenets of Communism on their reductions in Paraguay, for 150
years, from 1600-1750.
Martin: What is a reduction?
Phelps: A reduction is a commune. In Israel they would call it a kibbutz. In Joseph Stalin’
s Russia they would call it a commune. In New York they call it a village. In France,
Paris, they called it a commune. It’s communal living where everybody is equal in their
finances, in the labors; you have no great, no small, no rich, no poor—everybody is
small, and everybody is poor, and everybody is controlled by a dictator. That’s the
essence of Communism.
The Jesuits, on the reductions in Paraguay, which were the communes, had a central
bank, and it was "each according to their ability and each according to their need". And
so, the Guarani Indians that were the subjects—and there were some 200,000 of these
South American Indian natives who were slaves of the Jesuits, putting their goods into
world commerce and trade. They were living under the tenets of Communism, perfected
by the Jesuits, as outlined in Plato’s Republic and Sir Thomas Moore’s Utopia. The
Jesuits perfected it on their reductions.
With that, they then introduced Communism in 1848 through Karl Marx. They tutored
him in the British Museum, according to Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit.
So Marx, the Jewish Freemason, was to be the one to put forward this Communism for
the world, so that Communism would look like a Jewish brain-child, so that Communism
could be blamed on the Jews. Well, what’s not told is that the Jews involved in the
implementing of Communism were Masonic Jews. Karl Marx was a 33rd-degree
Freemason, a worshipper of Lucifer, whose father wanted nothing to do with him,
because his father was a Baptist preacher.
Jewish Freemasonry, controlled by the Jesuits, implemented Communism in Russia.
Lenin, the half-Jew, was a Freemason. That civil war that took place from 1917-1922,
for 5 years, was given the appearance that it was primarily Yiddish. I mean, they’re on
the streets of Russia talking Yiddish; they had Yiddish signs; and it was wanted to give
the impression to the world that this revolution was of Jewish origin.
For 10 years after the revolution, the Jews faired very well, but in 1922, Joseph Stalin,
that great Jew-hater, who was educated by Jesuits in Georgia—which was a country
south of Russia and, therefore, the Emperor’s banning of the Jesuits from Russia, his
Ukase, did not reach to Georgia. So the Jesuits stayed in Georgia, trained Joseph
Stalin, brought him in after the Revolution, and made him Secretary of the Communist
Party in 1922, until he died in 1953.
The Jesuits used Freemasonry and, of course, Stalin was also a brother Freemason.
They used Freemasonry to implement Communism in Russia, and from there, China,
and from there, throughout the world.
When Germany had their revolution after World War I, their Communist revolution—
remember, they requested an armistice—they had never been beaten on the field of
battle.
The Germans were foisted into that war; they never started World War I. It was started
by France and Russia and England, for the purpose of destroying Germany, because
Germany had expelled the Jesuits. During that war, the Germans requested an
armistice to stop this Communist revolution in Germany.
And who lead the revolution? The German Freemasons.
According to the Kaiser, in his memoirs, it was German Freemasonry that got him off his
throne and deposed him. He had to go into exile in Holland. He wrote his memoirs in
1935.
So the relationship between Jesuitism, Communism and Freemasonry we see evolving
and expanding from the 1600s to the ultimate achievement in the Bolshevik Revolution.
In my book, I parallel the French Revolution and the Bolshevik Revolution, and they are
identical. It was French Freemasonry that caused the French Revolution and the
Jacobins, and it was the Freemasons in Russia, with Bolsheviks, who caused the
Russian Revolution, with their Bolsheviks, leading and ending in Joseph Stalin. In
France, it ended with Napoleon; in Russia, it ended with Stalin. And so, that’s the
relationship there.
Martin: Why was Eugene Sue so significant?
Phelps: Eugene Sue wrote his masterpiece The Wandering Jew, and in that
masterpiece he weaves a fantastic story from India to England to France, of the power
of the Jesuit Order and their attempt to destroy the Rennepont family, a French
Huguenot Protestant family, and acquire a fortune that’s due to be inherited by the
members of that family on a certain day, at a certain time, in a certain year.
Well, that fortune is held, in trust, by a Jew, for which reason the book is named The
Wandering Jew. It tells of the power of the Jesuit Order in that book, and how the
Jesuits mercilessly killed all these members of the Rennepont family so they could not
inherit their fortune.
The only one, I believe, they didn’t kill was a priest, whose name was Gabriel, who was
a decent and a righteous Catholic priest who repudiated the Jesuit Order. He ordered
the Jew to burn all the securities, that totaled something like $212 million, that would
have rightfully been this French family’s.
So, the Jesuits didn’t get it, nor did the French family get it. It’s written with such drama
and feeling that you cannot put this book down. It was translated into many different
languages. As a result, the French, and other nations, had their French Revolution, the
second French Revolution of 1848. But because it was not lead by Godly men, it
benefited the Jesuits.
Whenever you have a revolution led by unGodly men, it’s just like a man who’s on a
horse, trying to be pushed off the horse, and as he’s pushed off, another dictator takes
his place. That’s exactly what happened in France, and Italy, and the nations who were
involved in that second French Revolution.
But Eugene Sue had motivated the people of France to expel the Jesuits, and they
were finally expelled in 1880 by a French Freemason, in the 3rd Republic, Leon
Gambetta. So, they’re all Freemasons who resist them, but they pay with their lives, like
Garfield, like Gambetta, Roosevelt, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Roosevelt really didn’t resist
them; he just was killed by them.
Martin: Again, I’m jumping around.
Phelps: Ok.
Martin: What was Operation Mongoose?
Phelps: Operation Mongoose was purely "black ops" in the words of Fletcher Prouty. Of
course, Fletcher Prouty I consider the authority on what Operation Mongoose was.
Operation Mongoose was to "give the appearance" of resistance to Castro’s
government by attacking Cuba but, in effect, solidified his reign there. That’s what it
ultimately produced. And that’s what the Knights and the CIA ultimately wanted. Ok?
The agreement that Kennedy made over the Cuban missile crisis in 1962—first of all,
there was no missile crisis. There’s no such thing as nuclear war. There’s no such thing
as a nuclear attack. That’s all a hoax. It’s just as much a hoax as going and landing on
the Moon. It’s a hoax.
Nuclear war, that fear, was the basis for the Cuban missile crisis. And out of that hoax,
Kennedy strikes a secret deal with Khrushchev that, if you keep the missiles out of
Cuba, we won’t bother Castro anymore. Well, that’s what the Jesuits wanted anyway.
They wanted to solidify Castro in power.
So that whole theatrical performance solidified Castro’s power in Cuba. And the
question is: Why would the Jesuits create this fanatical power in Cuba, run down the
Cuban people, put them in poverty, imprison them at random, create a living hell down
there, drive out the Mafia—the Mafia could no longer have their casinos in Havana?
Why would the Mafia give up their casinos? For the international drug trade to be
developing out of Vietnam.
Therefore, if the Mafia is leaving, and we don’t have a bunch of American tourists going
down to Cuba anymore, and Cuba is really a secret country—the Bible is not allowed
there, missionaries are not allowed in, obviously under Jesuit control, Castro was
trained by Jesuits—what’s the purpose of Cuba under Castro?
It’s purpose is as a landing base for foreign invasion. They have hundreds of vehicles,
underground, in underground caves there, ready for a massive invasion to the East
Coast, primarily the South. Because the last of the Protestants in this country are in the
South.
Cuba will always be under a dictator and will never go back to freedom, because it is to
be a landing base. And you know what? It could very well be a landing base for a Jihad
that the Moslems will foment against us, because they’ll come right across from Africa to
Cuba, get reinforced, and then go landing into Florida, with all their 5th-Column Cubans
in Florida and Miami right now. Sounds wild, but—.
Martin: That’s a sobering thought.
Phelps: Yes, it is. Sounds wild, but I’m telling you, all the geography is in place.
However, they can’t pull this all off until they get your guns. So that’s why they’re
constantly creating these gun issues—people shooting people, the Columbine High
School bit—to justify the confiscation of all the guns. And when that happens, then they
can do what they want to do.
Martin: There are a lot of strong Americans out there.
Phelps: The only problem is this: they’re not united and they can’t be lead. Americans
are leaderless because they do not follow. They all think their opinions are equal, and
they’re not. I would follow General Patton anywhere. I wouldn’t question an order of his.
We don’t have men like that today, for the most part, because we don’t have leaders
like that today.
Martin: I found your account of Patton’s assassination fascinating, also your speaking of
the Jesuits’ poisoning of him.
Phelps: A member of the OSS came out in the Spotlight [newspaper] and said that. His
name was Zapata, that agent. He said he was given a contract on Patton for $10,000.
He didn’t kill him, but he knows the guy who did. So, Patton was murdered, and
General Vlasov was murdered, and both of them hated the Jesuits’ "Grand Inquisitor",
Joseph Stalin. They would have united together to eradicate Russia of that dictator, but
the Jesuits would not have it because Russia is theirs. They must control the Orthodox
Church to bring it back to Rome. That’s why they got rid of the Romanoffs.
Martin: Patton’s take-out was ordered by "Wild" Bill Donovan? Did I read that?
Phelps: That’s right. Wild Bill Donovan was the head of the OSS at the time. And if you
get Anthony K. Brown’s The Last Hero, it’s on Wild Bill Donovan. He is in the Vatican at
the end of his life, in a picture, walking in the Vatican to receive one of the highest
medals from the Pope, for a "lifetime" of intelligence service to the Vatican. That is in
The Last Hero and the picture is mesmerizing. I want to put it in my book.
The OSS is nothing but an arm of the CIA and the Vatican, and that’s why they took out
Kenendy. They kill all the generals who don’t "play ball".
Martin: Let’s talk about the CIA and the FBI some more. What can you tell me about
their relationship to Count von Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Well, based upon the past, if the CIA and the FBI carried out the assassination
under Spellman, and Janseens was the Jesuit General then, the same power structure
is in place. So, von Kolvenbach, through his Knights of Malta and Jesuits, control the
FBI and CIA. And his liason of control is now Cardinal O’Connor in New York.
Martin: Some time ago, with Gunther Russbacher and others, there was talk about a
split in the CIA, of different factions. Some even say there is a third faction in the CIA
that has split off. What’s your opinion about factional divisions within the CIA?
Phelps: I think it’s true. I know that Angelton was the mole. Angelton was the one who
betrayed all those CIA agents in Russia, in which the vast majority of them were killed,
when he gave all that information to that KGB kingpin on a farm in New York, in a van,